I do have a - (ooh, almost said "final") - question related to this exchange.
What does RDA require when the place of publication on the title page is like this: Cambridge, Massachusetts, and London, England. Both in $a, just as they are, including and, or two $a's, one for each city? Karen Nelson Capilano University From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Fox, Chris Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 10:03 AM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Varying form of publisher's name on t.p./t.p. verso Trina, This is one of the most logical, clear, direct explanation of a concept in RDA that I have ever heard or read. I know this is a simple thing for most people, but for some of us struggling to understand and implement these new rules, either because we don't actually get to use it every day or because we don't have the time to really study the rules (and believe me, I know everyone is busy; I'm not implying that you all are not), an explanation like this really makes sense. Hopefully, it will give people like me the ability to look for and apply the same kind of logic and reasoning concerning other rules. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us, Trina, and Mac as always. I really appreciate it so much. Chris Chris Fox Catalog Librarian McKay Library Brigham Young Univ.-Idaho c...@byui.edu<mailto:c...@byui.edu> From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Trina Pundurs Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2013 9:36 PM To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Varying form of publisher's name on t.p./t.p. verso On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Dana Van Meter <vanme...@ias.edu<mailto:vanme...@ias.edu>> wrote: [...] My question is, in 2.2.2.2 when they say title page, they don't mean the t.p. verso, do they? [...] If I need to take the place of publication from the t.p. verso, should I then also take the publisher's name from the t.p. verso (follow rule 2.8.2.2)? Hi Dana, I find it helpful when struggling with a difficult 246 to begin by choosing and recording the publisher's name first, setting aside place for the moment. So for your resource, applying 2.8.4.2 and taking the publisher's name from the same source as the title proper, you'd have 264 _1 ... $b Hordern House and you are done with publisher's name. There is no need to revisit it once you've recorded it. After this you can turn your attention to place of publication. Considering your resource again, 2.8.2.2 tells you that the first spot to look for place of publication is the same source as the publisher's name. But there is no place of publication to be found there, so going back to 2.8.2.2 you can look anywhere else within the resource. (And this does mean *anywhere*; there is nothing special or privileged about the t.p. verso.) Once you choose your source, record the place of publication as it appears there. Using t.p. verso as the source, you'd have 264 _1 $a Potts Point, NSW, Australia (including "Australia" per 2.8.2.3) Then finish up with date of publication. You don't say whether there's a date on the title page -- if so, that's where you would take it from. But if it appears only on the t.p. verso, you can take it from there, without brackets, per 2.8.6.2. Put it all together and you get: 264 _1 $a Potts Point, NSW, Australia : $b Hordern House, $c 2004. This can get frustrating, but as with all things, it gets easier the more you do it. Trina Trina Pundurs Serials Cataloger Library Collection Services University of California, Berkeley tpund...@library.berkeley.edu<mailto:tpund...@library.berkeley.edu> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/ Proudly wearing the sensible shoes since 1990