What RDA requires, and how you would record it in MARC aren't necessarily
the same thing.
Only the first named place of publication is required by RDA. If you are
recording more than one using MARC and ISBD you would do:
264 _1 $a Cambridge, Massachusetts ; $a London, England : $b
RDA 2.8.2 If more than one place of publication appears on the source of
information, only the first recorded is required.
2.8.2.4 If more than one place of publication is named on the source of
information, record the place names in the order indicated by the
sequence, layout, or typography of the names on the source of information.
If you look at the final examples, they give you a good idean that you
don't just transcribe all of the places with connecting words in one
single subfield $a.
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On Wed, 20 Nov 2013, Karen Nelson wrote:
Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 21:29:13 +0000
From: Karen Nelson <knel...@capilanou.ca>
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Varying form of publisher's name on t.p./t.p. verso
I do have a - (ooh, almost said "final") - question related to this exchange.
What does RDA require when the place of publication on the title page is
like this: Cambridge, Massachusetts, and London, England.
Both in $a, just as they are, including and, or two $a's, one for each city?
Karen Nelson
Capilano University
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Trina,
This is one of the most logical, clear, direct explanation of a concept in RDA
that I have ever heard or read. I know this is a simple thing for most people,
but for some of us struggling to understand and implement these new rules,
either because we don't actually get to use it every day or because we don't
have the time to really study the rules (and believe me, I know everyone is
busy; I'm not implying that you all are not), an explanation like this really
makes sense. Hopefully, it will give people like me the ability to look for
and apply the same kind of logic and reasoning concerning other rules. Thanks
for sharing your knowledge with us, Trina, and Mac as always. I really
appreciate it so much.
Chris
Chris Fox
Catalog Librarian
McKay Library
Brigham Young Univ.-Idaho
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[mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Trina Pundurs
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Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Varying form of publisher's name on t.p./t.p. verso
On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Dana Van Meter
<vanme...@ias.edu<mailto:vanme...@ias.edu>> wrote:
[...]
My question is, in 2.2.2.2 when they say title page, they don't mean the t.p.
verso, do they? [...]
If I need to take the place of publication from the t.p. verso, should I then
also take the publisher's name from the t.p. verso (follow rule 2.8.2.2)?
Hi Dana,
I find it helpful when struggling with a difficult 246 to begin by choosing and
recording the publisher's name first, setting aside place for the moment.
So for your resource, applying 2.8.4.2 and taking the publisher's name from the
same source as the title proper, you'd have
264 _1 ... $b Hordern House
and you are done with publisher's name. There is no need to revisit it once
you've recorded it.
After this you can turn your attention to place of publication. Considering
your resource again, 2.8.2.2 tells you that the first spot to look for place of
publication is the same source as the publisher's name. But there is no place
of publication to be found there, so going back to 2.8.2.2 you can look
anywhere else within the resource. (And this does mean *anywhere*; there is
nothing special or privileged about the t.p. verso.) Once you choose your
source, record the place of publication as it appears there. Using t.p. verso
as the source, you'd have
264 _1 $a Potts Point, NSW, Australia
(including "Australia" per 2.8.2.3)
Then finish up with date of publication. You don't say whether there's a date
on the title page -- if so, that's where you would take it from. But if it
appears only on the t.p. verso, you can take it from there, without brackets,
per 2.8.6.2.
Put it all together and you get:
264 _1 $a Potts Point, NSW, Australia : $b Hordern House, $c 2004.
This can get frustrating, but as with all things, it gets easier the more you
do it.
Trina
Trina Pundurs
Serials Cataloger
Library Collection Services
University of California, Berkeley
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http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/
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