Gentleman,
I could tell you the reason why the Code panel was disbanded
(reassigned) by NFPA. I was on the panel since 2002 and am on the
current 2011 CMP #4. Panel 13 had jurisdiction over several articles
including PV. Two of the issues (Article 695, Fire Pumps, and Article
700, Emergency Systems) had contentious issues with them. Article 695
was an attempt at a complete rewrite that didn't go over to well.
Article 700, in particular, 700.27 dealing with selective coordination
was a very heated issue. The panel was nearly split down the middle
every time we meet over those issues. After Panel 13's articles were
reassigned, I was asked by my sponsor to again sit on Panel #4 which
has Article 690, 692 and now possibly 694, (Wind systems). My opinion
was that Article 690 wasn't the cause of Panel 13's reassignment.
Regards,
Brian
NABCEP Certified PV Installer
Oregon General Supervising Electrician #5156S
Oregon Electrical Inspector "A" Level certificate
Member of NEC CMP 4
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On Jun 7, 2009, at 3:39 PM, William Miller wrote:
Dick, colleagues:
I was at a seminar in which John Wiles lectured building officials
and installing contractors. At one point I asked about 690.31(E)
(2005). Mr. Wiles glibly commented that the restriction of that
section to utility-interactive systems was a "typo" in the 2005
edition. There were many officials present that inspect and plan-
check my work. Based on Mr. Wiles remark, several inspectors have
been trying to apply 690.31(E) to off-grid systems. This has cost
me time, money and aggravation.
Mr. Wiles apparently does not know the responsibility he has when he
makes off-hand remarks. His opinion that a given passage in the
code is not correct does not negate what is in black and white.
With all due respect, I wish he would be a bit more temperate in his
remarks.
Sincerely,
William Miller
PS: Mr. Wiles showed slides of his home installation. It may be a
code complaint installation, but there is nothing pretty about the
workmanship. I think a thorough familiarity with the code does not
alone comprise a complete education on PV installation.
Wm
At 10:07 AM 6/7/2009, you wrote:
According to John Wiles, the code making panel for 2008 Article 690
was
disbanded
by the NFPA because it, "violated NEC code developement procedures
and because
of other issues." Doesn't leave one with much confidence in their
work.
Dick Ratico
Solarwind Electric
Bradford, VT
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