Hi John;

Over 1000 cycles at 80% DOD out of a golf cart battery or L16 is almost double the average competition. I may have to give the RE Trojans a try. The 2 V L16 would especially be useful at over 1000 AH per unit. That would be good for old 12 v systems where we wanted to add capacity without over paralleling or breaking the off grid spinster budget.

Ray Walters

On 2/16/2012 6:39 AM, John DeBoever wrote:

Wrenches,

Drake,

Trojan Premium lineL16RE-A, L16RE-B and L16RE-2V are optimized for renewable energy applications. They offer 1,600 cycles @ 50% DOD @ 77F.

For details info, see here: http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/Premium_Trojan_ProductLineSheet.pdf

Trojan Signature line L16P and L16H, with historically-proven engineering with T-2 Technology, are recommended for renewable applications, with 1,200 cycles @ 50% DOD @ 77F.

For details info, see here: http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16P_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf

http://www.trojanbatteryre.com/PDF/datasheets/L16H_TrojanRE_Data_Sheets.pdf

All our Trojan batteries are manufactured in the USA with same standards as always. The Premium Line has thicker plates and a 30% thicker separator (higher quality) than the L16P and L16H, which gives it a longer cycle life, but less Ah capacity. Many renewable energy customers would choose a battery with a longer life and less capacity, over a battery with higher capacity and a shorter life so that the battery bank does not have to be replaced as often.

John

John F. DeBoever

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*From:*[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Drake
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 9:44 AM
*To:* RE-wrenches
*Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB

Hello Wrenches,

For small off grid systems, where money is an object, I use Trojan L-16s of the standard capacity. On this list, these have been recommended by many as more durable than the HC.

I recently had a customer complain when his worn out HC batteries (five years) were replaced by the standard capacity L-16 batteries. He wasn't satisfied with the capacity. I'm wondering if Trojan has also declined in its quality, or if he is really noticing a very significant difference between the HC and the E battery. (Or could he have new drains on his system he hasn't accounted for?)

Do you think the new Trojan L-16 batteries are as good as the old ones? Is it really best to avoid the HC batteries. How much noticeable difference is there between the initial performance of the two?

Thanks,

Drake


At 04:41 AM 2/15/2012, you wrote:

I have had horrible experience with Interstate L-16's both the standard and
the HC versions.
When you have several installs that get 10+ years from the standard Trojan
L-16's and you install (or they replace them with) Interstate's and some
Deka's and they fail in 3 or so years, it says something.
I see no reason that the customers would suddenly change their maintenance
habits after years of doing it right!

This also happened with a replacement set that I had.

I have to blame the batteries,
Bob Ellison

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Walters
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 12:02 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate L-16 vs Trojan L-16REB

No, both golf cart batteries and industrial cells get more cycle life per $.

Ray

On 2/14/2012 1:18 PM, William Miller wrote:
> Colleagues:
>
> Do any of you have experience with Interstate L-16 batteries?  Are
> they a good value?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> William Miller
>

Drake Chamberlin
ATHENS ELECTRIC LLC
OH License 44810
CO license 3773
NABCEP Certified PV


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