300.9 Raceways in Wet Locations Above Grade.

Where raceways are installed in wet locations abovegrade, the interior of these 
raceways shall be considered to be a wet location. Insulated conductors and 
cables installed in raceways in wet locations abovegrade shall comply with 
310.8(C).

 

“Section 300.9, new for the 2008 Code and similar to 300.5(B), draws attention 
to the inside of all raceways and enclosures installed in an abovegrade wet 
location. The inside of these raceways and enclosures now definitively requires 
conductors and cables suitable for use in wet locations in accordance with to 
310.8.” – Explanatory note

 

310.8 Locations.

(C) Wet Locations. Insulated conductors and cables used in wet locations shall 
comply with one of the following:     

(1)          Be moisture-impervious metal-sheathed 

(2)          Be types MTW, RHW, RHW-2, TW, THW, THW-2, THHW, THWN, THWN-2, 
XHHW, XHHW-2, ZW 

(3)          Be of a type listed for use in wet locations

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of benn kilburn
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2012 2:03 PM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase and Romex

 

Glenn/Jason,

So you wouldn't use romex to feed an exterior outlet on an outside wall, or to 
any outside lights???

 

Canadian Electrical Code's (CE Code) definitions…

wet location -a location in which liquids may drip, splash, or flow on or 
against electrical equipment.

Damp location –an exterior or interior location that is normally or 
periodically subject to condensation of moisture in, on, or, adjacent to 
electrical equipment an includes partially protected locations under canopies, 
parquees, roofed open porches, and similar locations.

Dry location –a location not normally subject to dampness, but that may include 
a location subject to temporary dampness as in the case of a building under 
construction, provided that ventilation is adequate to prevent an accumulation 
of moisture. 

 

If inside your attic is considered a "wet location", then you have other 
issues.  Are you sure the NEC's definition of 'wet location' is relating to the 
location of the romex?

I just spoke to one of my inspectors and he sees no issue with entering the 
bottom of a soladeck with romex.  

 

On the grounding/bonding, I have been using the bare wire in the romex for the 
enphase system ground (within the enphase cable) and running a #6 from the mod 
frames and rails into the soladeck and along side the romex back to the 
panelboard.

 

I need to get myself a copy of your NEC so I can be on the same page as you 
guys.  I hear it is written in a way that is much easier to interpret than the 
CE Code, which is written in a very legal jargon.

 

Cheers,

benn

DayStar Renewable Energy Inc. 

www.daystarsolar.ca  *  Ph: 780-906-7807 

Construction Electrician Solar Photovoltaic Systems Certified

Certificate # 0007S

HAVE A SUNNY DAY

 

On 25/10/12 9:37 AM, "Glenn Burt" <[email protected]> wrote:

 

Soladeck on the rooftop places it in an environment that is considered ‘wet’.

I don’t think Romex is listed for use in a wet environment.

 

This would force you to use the proposed jbox in the attic for the transition 
location.

I also understood that you could combine the EGC and GEC into a single 
conductor as long as it is continuous or irreversibly spliced, as part of the 
’08 code.

 

-Glenn Burt

 

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Szumlanski
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:13 AM
To: RE-wrenches
Subject: [RE-wrenches] Enphase and Romex

 

I'm sure this has been covered, but I could not find it in the archives.

 

We are considering using Romex in the attic for the first time. My plan was to 
use the new Enphase coupler to connect the trunk cable to Type TC-ER, enter a 
Soladeck passthrough box on the roof into a junction box in the attic where I 
would make the transition to 10/3 Romex. I'm hung up on the GEC going back to 
the service panel. Any suggestions?

 

By the way, we are on NEC 2008, and in most cases there is also a requirement 
for an additional grounding electrode per NEC 690.47(D) (that shouldn't really 
relate to my issue).

Jason Szumlanski 

Fafco Solar

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