you wrote: The Penalty - If you get caught running a standby power only generator the fine is now $39,000 per day!
....you are allowed 100 hours of run time for standby power and maintenance per year. *************************************************************** Can this really be true? Is there any clarification on this? Does this mean that if a residence that was in a blackout that lasted a week ran the generator the entire time, which would be three days or running over the 100 hour mark, the owner could be fined $117,000? We had a 10 day blackout a few years back. With this scenario, everyone in our village who ran generators would have lost their houses. >> >> >> I just got off of a phone call with my Onan generator supplier. Last >> conversation with Kohler was the same story basically. >> >> >> >> I was informed that their smallest water cooled generator, the RS22 (22 >> KW) is now no longer ârated âfor off grid. They actually called me >> to >> confirm that this generator was for backup power to a utility inter >> connected house. Tier 4 generators in the EPA CFR 40 is the Federal code >> what covers this, & you are allowed 100 hours of run time for standby >> power >> and maintenance per year. >> >> Q - Why am I using ridiculous sized generators for something that an >> 82-8300 watt generator does just fine? >> >> A - The EPA current requirements, a shrinking economy, & manufacturers >> that have to meet very expensive air quality compliance. >> >> The Penalty - If you get caught running a âstandby power onlyâ >> generator >> the fine is now $39,000 per day! >> >> Now I am far from a polluting kind of individual and all for air quality >> but this is getting the best of us. The 13KW air cooled generators are >> only >> good for 2000 hours, & the water cooled go 20 years of moderate usage >> but >> cost a boat load. I hate having the âGeneratorâ talk with a new >> client they >> look at me like I am crazy. So the air cooled units are basically >> throwaways and the 22KW units are way more than we need and what a >> client >> needs to spend money on, unless you are at 10,000 ft el. >> >> >> >> If you figure 30 amps/120 VAC input per inverter +/- x 2 = 7.2KW plus >> say >> 10-15% fudge or elevation factors would require an 8200-8300 watt >> generator. Air cooled at 3600 RPM = 80 MPH & 1800 RPM = 40 MPH. Even if >> the generator were a bit smaller, ran slow (1200-1800 rpm) and ran a bit >> longer that would be acceptable. >> >> So, why are we installing even 13KW air cooled or 22 KW water >> generators? >> >> There is a business opportunity here folks. >> >> >> >> What are you all installing? >> >> Why? >> >> Is it reliable? >> >> Would you use it on your house? >> >> >> >> Thanks for sharing all the wisdom and knowledge. >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> *Dana Orzel* >> >> *Great Solar Works, Inc - NABCEP # 051112-136* >> >> *E* - [email protected] - *Web* - solarwork.com >> >> *O* - 970.626.5253 *C *- 208.721.7003 - No FAX Line >> >> *"Responsible Technologies for Responsible People since 1988" * >> >> *P* Please consider the environment before printing this email. >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> List sponsored by Redwood Alliance >> >> List Address: [email protected] >> >> Change listserver email address & settings: >> http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org >> >> List-Archive: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >> >> List rules & etiquette: >> www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm >> >> Check out or update participant bios: >> www.members.re-wrenches.org >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > > _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: [email protected] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
