Hi Tump, FYI HUP industrial, on the 12v batteries, use bolted buss bars. But many of the other industrial motive batteries ( like the HUP) are welded.
Jay Peltz power > On Dec 16, 2015, at 7:10 AM, Tump <[email protected]> wrote: > > Individual 2 volt cells does allow one to bypass that "bad" cell & wait for a > replacement without disabling the whole system. Unfortunately few folks are > comfortable or aware how to replace a "welded in place"cell interconnect w/ > say a HUP battery. > As far as DEKA batteries I recently visited their manufacturing plant and was > quite impressed. QC is a major concern and having their own smelter allows > them to pull and test batteries at all phases of construction, check plate > strength, interconnect welds, ect. and then just toss them into the recycle > pile...... remelt and reman! Not only that but it was also impressive how > proud their employees were to be working for Deka, the average employee has > worked for them for ~15+ years. > As for Surrette & their warrentee pit bull, Steve may be over zealous in his > response (or lack there of) to our issues regarding wtee replacements but FYI > it not only us installers but their distributors are also having issues. > While robotics may have improved Surrette's belief that their product is top > of the line, we on the front line still have issues and are beginning to seek > products and manufactures that understand WE the installers are selling their > products and expect quality products and quality warrantee service. > This rant is coming from someone that has sold and installed Surrette > batteries for over 20+ years...... I have a very good distributor that > understands that even Surrette has problems and will back their product with > out all the additional BS that has been placed on us for "warrantee service", > and he and his service is why I still sell them! > Hey Steve, what say ye? > > On Dec 15, 2015, at 8:37 PM, jay wrote: > >> I agree with Tom here about 2 strings. >> And I have been told more than a few times in the last 22 years, from >> battery folks that there is no substitute for lead, in terms of capacity or >> longevity. >> >> Here is a comparison I worked up for a job just the other day and I’ll let >> you figure out which I’m recommending. >> >> Hup 6-100-33 12v 1550lbs ( includes steel case) >> Trojan IND 33-2v 1668 lbs ( weight for 6 of them) >> Rolls 2v20S33PS 1333 lbs. ( weight for 6 of them) >> >> >> As to the Deka making their own lead, its more of a marketing gimmick >> really. >> Just because you refine the lead, doesn’t mean its better or worse than what >> others are using. >> But does make for some good marketing. >> >> >> I wouldn’t touch the nickel iron. They are so crazy expensive. Yes I know >> some folks have had fantastic success with them, and I can tell you about >> many many others that didn’t. >> All the draw backs: hi discharge rates, hard to configure, unknown quality, >> etc. >> If I was going to go NiFE, then I’d consider lithium for sure. ( no not >> tesla arggg). >> And i have had more than a few people considering industrial batteries, that >> I’ve talked out of. Because I think lithium pricing and quality are going >> down and up respectively and you’ll save money with a interim set of L-16’s. >> If you get 3-4 years, I thing the price of lithium will come down in price >> more than the set of L-16’s and you’ll end up with a better system. >> Lead is heading out. >> But thats just my opinion. >> >> Cheers, >> >> jay >> >> > _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: [email protected] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
