The HUP is a smaller footprint than L16s because it is a taller battery. We've moded quite a few battery boxes just by raising them and adding a strip of wood at the bottom.

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On 12/28/2015 7:39 AM, Drake wrote:
For the time being, we replaced the failed Trojan L-16 E to keep the the bank going. We are investigating different options, including the Deka batteries. A limiting factor is the footprint of his battery bank. It is in a vented enclosure in his living space. To expand the footprint would mean major construction. This may be required at some point.

Drake

At 09:38 PM 12/27/2015, you wrote:
Following up on this earlier thread, Drake...
Now previously knowing these system details, my advice no longer applies, simply because FLA industrial cells don't generally come that small. This is a small bank. If his array is large enough to properly charge a larger bank (the MX60 can handle around 3,200W at 48Vnom), smaller industrial cells would work. The smallest HUP 48V system is rated at 845 A-hr and retails for just over $12K, about what he planned for his nickel-irons.
Any updates since this thread?
Allan

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On 12/16/2015 6:17 AM, Drake wrote:
Thanks for all the helpful responses.

The battery bank is composed of 8 Trojan L-16E batteries in series with around 2.6 kW of PV on an older 48 V Outback system with one VFX 3648 and one MX-60. I did not install the system, but I did supply the faltering bank of replacement L-16s.


At 12:37 PM 12/15/2015, you wrote:
Drake,
Your request is missing specifics so my answer can only be generic. Get away from all L16s. Go to one string of industrial cells. There are numerous well-respected brands. I would put HUPs at about the top. www.hupsolarone.com <http://www.hupsolarone.com>. Spend some time on this website and it will become more clear.
Allan

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Founder (Retired), Positive Energy, Inc.
*505 780-2738 cell*


On 12/15/2015 9:07 AM, Drake wrote:
Hello Wrenches,

Even after my clients have learned to maintain their batteries properly, the Trojan L-16 batteries continue to crater, one cell at a time. One client is considering spending $12,000 on a nickel - iron battery bank he found on the web. This seems like a ridiculously large investment, but he is feeling desperate. We urgently need another option from the Trojan L-16s.

How are the Surrette L-16s holding up? Would you recommend them as worth the extra investment?

What is the best battery to use in an off grid system these days.

Thanks,

Drake

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