Are those wire nuts listed for wet locations? Most ideal outdoor (damp/wet) rated wire nuts are blue or grey in my experience.
August Luminalt *From:* RE-wrenches [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Benn Kilburn *Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 12:02 PM *To:* RE-wrenches *Subject:* Re: [RE-wrenches] Wire nuts The reason i'm asking is that the only time i have seen a short, first-hand, in a wire nut, was because it appeared that one wire was pushed down rather than binding with the other wire, which would have happened if the wires were not held tightly when the nut was twisted on. Also, it was a stranded wire (that was pushed down) being connected to a solid wire, which is acceptable, but care must be taken to do it properly. Also, on all the Ideal wire nut packages I have, the instructions say to twist the wire nut on until there are two visible twists in the wire. I suppose this is to ensure the twist/connection is sufficient to make a solid connection and perhaps to keep the wires together if the wire nut is removed. The ones in this photo do not look like they were installed as per the instructions, which brings how much attention was put in to installing them in the first place. I've always questioned the why wire nuts are cautioned against, especially considering how many wire nuts are used in residential and commercial jobs. I'm sure if there was a legit issue with them then insurance companies would insist they not be used, such as aluminum wiring? *Benn Kilburn * CSA Certified Solar Photovoltaic Systems Electrician, SkyFire Energy Inc 14515 – 121A Ave NW | Edmonton, AB | T5L 2T2 P: 780-474-8992 | F: 888-405-5843 | www.skyfireenergy.com [image: email] <[email protected]> [image: facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/SkyFireEnergy> [image: twitter] <https://twitter.com/SkyFireEnergy> [image: linkedin] <https://www.linkedin.com/company/283735?trk=tyah&trkInfo=tarId%3A1408655033432%2Ctas%3Askyfire%2Cidx%3A2-2-5> [image: SkyFire Energy Logo_horizontal] *WE HAVE MOVED!** Please note our new address above.* On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 12:47 PM, Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> wrote: All the other nuts are tight so l cant not say it was or not but l see this alot and this was one that was caught just at the right time. Jerry On Sep 6, 2016 8:44 AM, "Benn Kilburn" <[email protected]> wrote: Jerry, Can you confirm that this was caused by a failure of the wire nut, itself, and not due to user error (not properly stripping enough jacket, inserting even length wires and sufficiently twisting on the wire nut) Benn Kilburn SkyFire Energy Inc. 780-906-7807 On Sep 6, 2016, at 12:32 PM, Jerry Shafer <[email protected]> wrote: Wrenches Better pic On Sep 5, 2016 4:52 PM, "Jerry Shafer" <[email protected]> wrote: To my fellow wrenches It comes up every so often and with DC, I will not use, approve or pass any wire nuts on any DC side. Some say its OK but the facts are they will fail, this connection was just six years and when l opened the junction box it was glowing and by the looks of it has for some time. There are 8 strings 2 per string and thats a 12.5 % failure rate (the other one was completely distroyed) not to mention the fire hazard in a PVC junction box. Please pass this along and tell everyone to stop using these. Jerry <2016-09-06 08.29.40.jpg> _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: [email protected] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: [email protected] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: [email protected] Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org
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