William, NABCEP writes no state laws, makes no regulations or policies. As such, the only “teeth” it has is to revoke or suspend the Certification of a bad actor. Some states have recognized the value of a NABCEP Certification and tied it to their solar incentive programs in some way, but not all do that. California is one bad example, but then, CA allowed C-46 solar thermal licensees to do PV back in the days because well… solar is solar, right? Idiots...
On Apr 12, 2018, at 12:16 PM, William Miller <will...@millersolar.com> wrote: Friends: I tell any prospective employee that in order to become a solar electrician, one must first be a qualified electrician. I am convinced of this point. Being a solar electrician adds much complexity on top of the traditional trade. However, not all electricians are good electricians. There is a lot of shoddy work being done out there. In fact there is only one electrician in my area I will refer to. I am not opposed to the fundamentals of organized labor, but while working as a union represented worker, I saw union management manipulate situations to benefit themselves over the worker and the employer. A lot of solar installers are not big-box but rather mom and pop style shops. IBEW moves appear to be intended to crush the small competitors, and that is not right with me. I agree we need a means to ensure good, safe installations. NABCEP seems to have no teeth in enforcing standards-- I have never been required to produce a certification. The only method in place now-- and it is spotty-- is through building permitting and inspections. I put my energy into educating local inspectors. Sorry to those C-46 holders out there, but in my opinion, if you don't hold a license to be an electrician, you shouldn’t be working as an electrician. William Miller Lic 773985 millersolar.com 805-438-5600 -----Original Message----- From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jason Andrade Sent: Friday, March 23, 2018 6:03 PM To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Subject: [RE-wrenches] Ibew is working to exclude C-46 contractor’s from installing Batteries. Hi at this point I believe this is a California only issue, but I was contacted by CalSeia today and was asked to be involved in a discussion regarding a move where only a C-10 contractor can install a battery based system This was news to me but they sent me a pdf outlining the issue and I will read it over this weekend has anyone else heard about this? My instant response is what special training does the c10 have that the c46 doesn’t ? Jason Andrade West Coast Sustainables Sent from my iPhone _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org/maillist.html List rules & etiquette: www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm Check out or update participant bios: www.members.re-wrenches.org