Hi Bill - I completely agree with your statement about all off-grid applications. Most if not all need generators. And, I do think there are some grid tied applications where generators make sense too, especially for folks who live way out in the woods as you mention. I was speaking about the mass market in CA in cities or towns where the grid is typically fairly reliable. If you install four Powerwalls, for example, you have up to 54 kWh of storage available. There are applications where generators make sense, and all these fires and smoke and heat waves prove the point. I think AC is critical for some parts of the country, and energy storage + PV alone just won't cut it for those critical applications.
But, yes, good point. August On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 2:33 PM frenergy <frene...@psln.com> wrote: > August, > > Quite frankly and with due respect about the comment about > more PV and battery to forego the need for a generator, I disagree. Those > folks living off-grid in the sticks (um,er, myself included), it would be a > very bad thing not to have Gen input. The current situation here in Plumas > county (and many other counties right now) is another perfect example. It > is so smokey that my daily KWhrs has been cut in half and of course every > other off-grid home is having the same issue. This has been going on for > almost a month with only occasional breaks. There are also CC failures, > FET board craps out, other excrement occurs. > > We all know there are many critical needs for power especially > to run a pump for fire protection, frig for food, communication to know > what the hell may coming your way during some event (fire, flood, bad > weather) medical needs, etc. In the winter there are at least a few times > when there is little or no sun for 1 maybe 2 weeks...that gets to be a > spendy array and battery. Certainly, the idea of going that route works > for some scenarios but not off-grid. Generators are still a much needed > necessary evil. Maybe its a big deal to incorporate that feature in an > inverter?? Sounds like bean counting. > > My $.02 worth > > Bill > > Feather River Solar Electric > Bill Battagin, Owner > 4291 Nelson St. > Taylorsville, CA 95983 > 530.284.7849 > CA Lic 874049www.frenergy.net > > On 9/11/2020 1:01 PM, August Goers wrote: > > In CA the market for ESS is primarily grid tied support features driven by > SGIP + backup (public safety power shutoffs, folks who live in less stable > grid areas, folks worried about natural disasters) so the ESS is designed > to replace generators. This might be a little trickier for areas that need > air conditioning during a grid outage (or for all electric homes), but one > tactic is just to go bigger with the ESS and PV system. I guess what I'm > saying is that the value proposition might already be getting better just > to skip the generator and go bigger with the storage. Even Generac might be > going that route. > > August > > > On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Jason Szumlanski < > ja...@floridasolardesigngroup.com> wrote: > >> We are seeing tons of companies in Florida offering Generac/Pika now. >> They didn't do it when it was Pika, so why would they now that it has an >> orange label? Crazy. >> >> No generator input makes zero sense and even less sense for a generator >> manufacturer. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 12:58 PM Chris Schaefer <ch...@solarandwindfx.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Jeremy, >>> Pika was bought out by Generac and rebranded as their PWR cell. Most of >>> the old crew from Pika are now working for Generac. It's beyond me that >>> Generac bought them and yet they still don't have a generator input. That's >>> why I could never sign on to the Pika product line. Good luck. >>> >>> Christopher >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 11:00 AM Jeremy Rodriguez < >>> allsolarjer...@msn.com> wrote: >>> >>>> If anyone has any info on how to get a hold of The former PIKA ENERGY >>>> support group, please contact me off list. >>>> Or if anyone knows where one could get one of their inverters >>>> rebuilt/repaired let me know. >>>> >>>> Jeremy Rodriguez >>>> Solar Installation / Design Expert >>>> All Solar, Inc. >>>> 1463 M St >>>> Penrose Colorado 81240 >>>> >>>> Sent by Jeremy's iPhone. Sorry for typos and shorthand. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> > > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> > <#m_-5442077821836477810_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List-Archive: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/pipermail/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > List rules & etiquette: > www.re-wrenches.org/etiquette.htm > > Check out or update participant bios: > www.members.re-wrenches.org > >
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