I didn’t say it did. 3 options. The OEM are selling a product that isnt code 
complaint, doubtful. Or it is  included in the UL listing or there isn’t a UL 
standard for this to test to. 

I don’t have time but a call to the companies that list this feature would 
clear it up. 

Jay
Peltz power. 


> On Mar 31, 2021, at 10:56 AM, Jason Szumlanski 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> Does UL1741 cover zero sell? I wasn't aware of that. I thought it just 
> covered anti-islanding. If zero sell is covered, I don't see why a utility 
> would not accept that. 
> 
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 11:51 AM Jay <[email protected]> wrote:
>> A number of companies have this feature which is under their UL listing. 
>> SE
>> SolArk
>> To name 2. 
>> 
>> Are you saying that the UL listing isn’t enough and that it needs 3rd party 
>> testing. 
>> If so what organization/testing would that be?
>> 
>> Jay
>> Peltz power
>> 
>>>> On Mar 31, 2021, at 8:27 AM, Jason Szumlanski 
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> I wonder how quick these software based approaches are to respond to loads 
>>> that drop off and momentary selling that may occur before production is 
>>> curtailed. I think what Greg may be asking is whether there is a failsafe 
>>> method to prevent backfeed. Without a battery, I'm not sure how that would 
>>> be accomplished. It's an interesting question.
>>> 
>>> I can see a small utility not accepting a non-failsafe software based 
>>> solution unless it can be shown to be 100% effective via third party 
>>> listing/certification.
>>> 
>>> Jason Szumlanski
>>> Florida Solar Design Group
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 7:29 AM Will White <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Many inverters have the option to zero-sell (no export to the grid) but 
>>>> you need an additional CT on the main service conductors so the inverter 
>>>> can monitor the loads and ramp down production if it starts to get close 
>>>> to producing more than the loads require. 
>>>> 
>>>> I'd suggest getting into the manuals and white papers of the inverter 
>>>> manufacturers to determine if they can do this. I believe both SolarEdge 
>>>> and Enphase can do it. I'd assume others can as well.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Will
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
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>>>> 
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>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 9:24 PM greg egan <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Wrenches, I've got a small system using SolarEdge inverter (4 kW) that 
>>>>> is supposed to go in to a small town that does not allow selling power 
>>>>> to the grid.  That may change but that is how it stands now.  The 
>>>>> customer wants to use the power that is generated but can not sell or 
>>>>> even give excess power away.  Do any of you have any experience setting 
>>>>> up a grid tie no battery system so that it can not sell to the grid 
>>>>> under any circumstances?  Just wondering before I dig any deeper if 
>>>>> there's an obvious solution I'm missing. Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Egan
>>>>> Remote Power Inc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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