Hi Greg, XW+ is supported until warranty runs out. After that Schneider will still be of help on it if you are a registered installer. XW+ is still sold new in the 230vac version outside NA. There is one memory board in XW+ that was improved for XW pro for grid apps. It will not be hard to find someone who works on them in the secondary market. That said, in my opinion XW just keeps working once installed correctly and does not need the secondary market for repair like Outback does.
The config tool is great as I do not need a network at some clients homes, and it is excel based for logging. I would measure each inverters AC. If it is more than 2 volts different, for offgid app, I would say that is not your problem. You never stated if the firmware was up to date and the same on each inverter? I stopped reading your post after that because that could be the problem. Network, AC power, DC power need to be installed in raceways as per the manual. MPPT's have had firmware updated for a few things. Good Luck ! Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ e-mail [email protected] text 209 813 0060 On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 21:52:09 -0800, greg egan <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave and Maverick, > > Thanks for the info. Dave, > > - Grid support is off. Was never on. > - inverters were purchased in Sep 2019. Installed and turned off in Sep > 2020. Finishing installation now. > - they worked a few days ago. sometimes they sell to each other, > sometimes they don't. Last I looked they were behaving. > - all named differently > - are they really no longer supported? if so it begs the question, how > long will anything SE sells be supported? > > Maverick, > > - only one master > - I may go adding them one at a time if they start selling to each other > again. It MAY be that when I lay the SCP down sometimes I'm laying it > too close to the Batt cables and maybe there's some noise generated on > the line? who knows. > > Since you like the config tool, do you know how to set the voltages so > they're all the same? It seems like you're supposed to make the > inverter you want to adjust the output voltage on, you're supposed to > make that inverter the master. When I try (even with all the other > inverters off) the inverter gives me a fault and shuts off. I forget > the F- number but it's like a naming conflict fault of some sort. > > I'm thinking of trying to > - kill power to all the inverters. > - erase anything in the SCP if I can figure out how. > - disconnect all CAT 5 cables from the inverters except the cable to the > SCP and the end plug for the one I'm working on. > I'm hoping that MAYBE that will allow me to get the voltages within .5 > of each other per the manual. I don't understand why that should matter > since they all are connected with AC SYNC cables but it might be the > problem. Who knows? > > I've run into another problem fwiw. We're trying to charge a NiFe > battery bank at 66 VDC. The SCP and the inverters show a hi batt > voltage warning sometimes and even go in to fault sometimes. That's > supposed to happen at 68VDC. I've never seen that on my Fluke 187 or on > the SCP. It's tough enough to get it to 66v. I may have seen it @ 66.5 > but never 68. Does anyone know what the real programmed HBCO is for > these inverters because it's definitely not 68. Just wondering if > anyone else has found a solution. Inverters shutting on HBCO is not a > really cool feature. > > On the 80/600 Charge controllers I've gotten a weird error, something > like HiFastOCErr. It's supposed to be when the CC is putting out over > 140 amps DC for more than 5 seconds. It stops the CC from charging > which is also not a cool feature. No way of course it's putting out 140 > amps or even close. Anyone know what this really means? I'm guessing > that it means the CC is putting out more than 4800 watts. I set the > Percent Charge to 90% just to see if that helps. 72 amps X 66 VDC is > just under 4800 so we'll see if it works. > > I'll try to make a post of all the errors and ommisions I find on the > XW+ and Connext gear I'm working on, especially if I figure out how the > gear actually works and what the error/fault/warnings really mean. > > Thanks very much for writing, I really appreciate it. Sorry for the > slow response to comments today - comm issues. > > Greg Egan > Remote Power Inc. >> From: greg egan <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: [RE-wrenches] 4 XW+ 6848 with AC Coupling problem >> >> The XW+ inverters are selling to >> each other.? XW+'s are disconnected from the load and from generator >> input.? System is off grid.? When I switch the ATS the inverters are >> supposed to pick up the load.? ~ 12 kW, maybe 18 worst case.? They are >> selling to each other and when I make the switch the lights flicker and >> the inverters go off, then they try to go on, and go off, etc. >> >> Sync cables are hooked up.? 4 XW+ and 1 SCP on one xanbus network. No >> gateway hooked up at this time.? PV will be on it's own Xbus network.? >> Not planning on using the Gateway if I can help it. >> >> Thanks for any light you can shed on this.? Not sure why Schneider would >> ever want their inverters to sell to each other >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 4 >> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 13:30:13 -0700 >> From: Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar <[email protected]> >> To: "RE-wrenches" <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 4 XW+ 6848 with AC Coupling problem >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> >> If they are selling you need to verify that grid support >> is off!. There are so many settings that interact. By default it was. >> >> I >> will ask, these are old units right? Did they ever work right? Is the >> firmware the same on all and do they have different ID numbers for the >> network? You may try going back to defaults. There really is not enough >> info in your post to go further. >> >> XW+ are out of support for US split phase >> and replaced with XWP about a year back. How old are they? >> >> If it were me, >> I would make sure that 2 of the units work correctly first. Take all >> other >> xw's off xanbus/Sync and test. >> Good Luck ! >> >> Dave Angelini Offgrid >> Solar >> "we go where powerlines >> don't" >> http://members.sti.net/offgridsolar/ >> e-mail >> [email protected] >> text 209 813 0060 >> >> ------------------ >> >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:46:36 -0500 >> From: Maverick Brown <[email protected]> >> To: RE-wrenches <[email protected]> >> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 4 XW+ 6848 with AC Coupling problem >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> It?s a good idea to make sure only one set as Master the others are >> slave. Start by adding one slave at a time. Turn off Search, Charger and >> Grid Support until you know they are playing happy. >> >> I prefer using the XW Config and walking through the wizard, but you can >> use Multi Unit setup, which will put everything in standby. I have >> several 8-12 unit XW sites 3-4 Inverters, SCP, AGS and Combox/ Gateway, >> etc. >> >> It can be done. >> >> Maverick Brown >> Off-Grid Solar Commander since 2006 >> Maverick Solar Enterprises, Inc. >> ? Solar Commander Remote Power >> ? SunFlow Systems Cathodic Protection >> [email protected] >> 512-460-9825 >> > > _______________________________________________ > List sponsored by Redwood Alliance > > Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org > > List Address: [email protected] > > Change listserver email address & settings: > http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org > > There are two list archives for searching. 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