Hi Jeff

If it’s the energy cell xlc from Outback then it shows an eq requirement. 

If not that battery, most industrial quality VRLA  I’ve seen have a eq 
requirement, conditioning charge or something similar. 
And the lowering of capacity is common from experience. 

Question
What equipment/brand  is charging it?

Jay

Peltz power

> On Jul 14, 2021, at 1:49 PM, Jeff Clearwater <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>  Thanks Dave - yes I've done whole pack load testing.  The deal with this 
> pack though is that it is so remote and the expense of "just replace the 
> pack" in terms of shipping and labor is extreme - (tiny Bahaman island with 
> only regular small boat access}
> 
> And if it was toward the end of the pack's life anyway I'd not mess around - 
> but with only 600 well documented cylces on a $25K pack - and with probably 
> half that again in shipping and labor to replace - I'm needing to carefully 
> document the lagging cells for either a warranty claim or at least to make 
> good decisions going forward.
> 
> It's easy to access the cells as this is an EnergyCell AGM stack with easily 
> accessible terminals and removable terminal bars.
> 
> If we replace we'd go LFP - on the order of 100 KWHrs.  So no small decision 
> for the customer - so worth the testing.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Jeff Clearwater
> Village Power Design
> www.villagepowerdesign.com
> 
> 
> 
>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar July 14, 2021 at 10:32 AM
>> I can ask my battery guy! He is the best with AGM and a dealer for full 
>> river and concord. He does this alot! Saves a bunch. He always says that 
>> most of the warranty is just a full/corrective charge and 80% are good. 
>> Undercharging is the problem. Very very few are overcharged. His words! I 
>> just replace the bank, no time to play with this stuff.
>> 
>> However, I just do the same thing I do with any bank of individual 
>> batteries. I put a large load on the bank with the inverter and look at each 
>> cells voltage. You may have done this... 
>> 
>> The hard part is, depending on the make, is pulling the cell and doing a 
>> full charge and EQ if it is the make that allows it.
>> 
>> The other hard part is just getting batteries these days. I just heard 
>> Trojan is 8+ months out. You know what Steve from RollsSurrette has said. 8 
>> weeks I think.
>> 
>> The easy part, what make is your cell?  
>> 
>>  
>> Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
>> "we go where powerlines don't"
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>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 10:16:31 -0700, Jeff Clearwater 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Jeff Clearwater July 14, 2021 at 10:16 AM
>> Hey Good Folks,
>> 
>> I've got a 2300 AH AGM pack of 2 Volt cells that is showing signs of 
>> premature aging (only 600 cycles) and I need to test the AH capacity of each 
>> cell to help the customer make decisions going forward of whether to replace 
>> individual lagging cells or the whole pack.
>> 
>> What equipment have folks used to do AHour tests on 2 Volt 2300 AH cells?  
>> I've done plenty of load testing on 6, 12, 24 and 48 volt packs as a whole 
>> but am not sure what's my best approach is for 2 volt individual tests.
>> 
>> I know I could put a  resistance load and then use an AHour integrator unit 
>> - but does anyone know of what unit and what resistive load I'd use at 2 
>> volts?  That would be a large device at that voltage to get any appreciative 
>> wattage! - I'd like to do a 10 hour test at most.
>> 
>> I see 2 V test units on the web but they only appear to be hooked up for a 
>> small amount of time - so they can't be testing full to empty discharge 
>> AHours.  
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Jeff Clearwater
>> Village Power Design
>> www.villagepowerdesign.com
>> 
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