I love the Milwaukee CP 3.0 HO batteries. A great combo of size vs power/energy 
and they use the larger 21700 battery. 

Maverick Brown
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> On Jan 20, 2022, at 8:43 PM, Jay <jay.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Most all the companies use the same Samsung batteries. 
> 
> Here is a video about someone checking that out. 
> 
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Plhxnrba2D8
> 
> Jay 
> 
> 
>>> On Jan 20, 2022, at 1:03 PM, Ray <r...@solarray.com> wrote:
>>> 
>> I've had great luck with the Milwaukee M18; I almost never bring in my tool 
>> batteries anymore, unless its going to be below 0. Love the cordless shop 
>> vac.
>> 
>> I also use Ryobi, for my less used tools (ie.circular saw) and they have 
>> excellent performance for the money.  Not quite as temperature forgiving 
>> though.
>> 
>> As for Milwaukee chucks jamming up;  I only had that happen once after a 
>> bunch of hammer drilling in Haiti.  Scrounged all over the village for the 
>> special star keys to take apart the chuck, but it just needed to be cleaned.
>> 
>> Ray Walters
>> Remote Solar
>> 303 505-8760
>> 
>>> On 1/20/22 10:24 AM, Dana Orzel wrote:
>>> Really Happy with the Milwaukee M18 volt series. Various sized batteries 
>>> available, & there have to be 150+ tools in the M18 series. I got into the 
>>> Milwaukee 28 volt originally & what a nightmare; too heavy, replacement 
>>> batteries were $$$ & life span on the battery was not good.
>>> 
>>> I have been told the Milwaukee power tools have steel gears not plastic. 
>>> The impacts are bomber solid.
>>> 
>>> So far cold weather operation is good, no noticeable deficiencies. & I have 
>>> charged them very cold so the battery charger BM is fairly smart/sensitive. 
>>> I have noticed if really cold the charger says "broken Battery"
>>> 
>>> I Loved the small cooler & reptile heater idea! Great idea!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org> On Behalf Of 
>>> drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2022 9:32 AM
>>> To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lithium Ion tool batteries
>>> 
>>> What lithium battery powered tool brand that has the best performance in 
>>> freezing weather? My 10 year old+ Makita tool set isn't nearly as powerful 
>>> as some newer tools. Even with new batteries, the tools have sufficient 
>>> power in cold weather.
>>> 
>>> What is the best brand for cold weather operation?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Drake
>>> 
>>> Drake Chamberlin
>>> Athens Electric LLC
>>> Ohio Electrical Contractor’s License 44810 CO Master Electrician’s License 
>>> 4526 NABCEP Certified PV Installation Professional
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2022-01-19 11:58, Alex MeVay wrote:
>>>> Generally, storage or use at cold temperatures shouldn't be an issue,
>>>> as long as the battery can still deliver enough power to operate the
>>>> tool effectively.
>>>> 
>>>> Charging though...at cold temperatures, ion mobility goes down.  If
>>>> the battery is charged too fast, the lithium ions can't make it into
>>>> the graphite anode fast enough and they start to plate out as metallic
>>>> lithium.  At best, this results in a permanent reduction in capacity.
>>>> Next worst from there, the lithium metal can create an internal soft
>>>> short, immediately or at a later point in time, resulting in high
>>>> self-discharge or a dead cell.  Worst case, it turns into a hard short
>>>> and a fire.
>>>> 
>>>> In theory, the BMS or charger should prevent charging too fast or too
>>>> cold, but who knows if an edge-case like this is actually implemented
>>>> correctly on any particular battery system.    Be careful charging!
>>>> 
>>>> Alex MeVay
>>>> 
>>>> Genasun * Blue Sky Energy * http://sunforgellc.com
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