I don’t know who’s bigger or has more money. 

EG4 is a manufacturer 

Signature is a distributor 

Both are in the same town 

Some one on this site said EG4 said they bought OB. 

EG 4 makes more sense as they would have lots of Chinese manufacturing contacts. If OB is coming out with new products, I’d expect they are coming out of China. 
I could easily see them partnering with any of the large Chinese companies. 

I guess we will know soon. 

Jay





On May 20, 2024, at 6:16 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:


At Intersolar (January) San Diego, I heard Bigbatterybox.com purchased Outback. Since then, I've heard it may be Signature Solar. I am unsure who purchased them, but with them being so close to Signature Solar, that makes sense. I'm not sure who purchased them, but they have been asleep at the wheel since then. They can't sell any product in Canada because they have let their CSA certificates lapse. 


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On Mon, May 20, 2024 at 4:45 PM Jerry Shafer via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
So here is the scoop, I got it that outback is moving to Dallas and will still be a premium product, and yes the optics shut down had something to do with the sale. Everyone hold on as they say they have new products at SPI this fall. Keep your fingers crossed and let's all wait patiently.
Fun times 

On Sun, May 19, 2024, 10:53 AM Lou Russo via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
I started poking through EnerSys's (The most recent owner of Outback) SEC filings in hopes to find who the new buyer is. I found nothing related to the sale but found this in their most recent quarterly report :

On November 8, 2023, the Company's Board of Directors approved a plan to stop production and operations of residential renewable energy products, which include our OutBack and Mojave brands. Management determined that residential renewable energy products no longer fit with the company’s core strategy and resources will be better allocated toward commercial energy solutions for enterprise customers. The Company currently estimates that the total charges for these actions will amount to $23.5 million relating primarily to $22.6 million in non-cash charges primarily including inventory and an indefinite-lived intangible asset write-offs and $0.9 million in cash charges including employee severance and retention payments. The plan is expected to be completed in fiscal 2024. During the nine months of fiscal 2024, the Company recorded non-cash charges totaling $6.6 million primarily related to indefinite-lived intangible asset write-off and cash charges of $0.4 million related to severance costs. The Company also recorded a non-cash write off relating to inventories of $16.1 million, which was reported in cost of goods sold.

To say I am curious about what is going on is an understatement. 

Aloha,

Lou Russo 
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On Sun, May 19, 2024 at 2:21 AM Jay via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:
I agree with you William

While there could be all sorts of valid reasons for the downtime. 

What’s not acceptable is the lack of communication and notification that it was going to happen or had happened.  

If they do have new owners they are not starting well. 

Jay



On May 18, 2024, at 9:42 PM, William Miller via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:



Friends:

 

I am sure you are all acutely aware, but this is not a trivial matter.  We depend on Optics for alerts and trouble shooting.  We rely on Optics for the history it records to analyze trends and evaluate production and consumption. I doubt the data lost will back-fill.  I sell Outback based in great part on the Optics interface.  For this system to be down for days at a time is not a good sign at all.

 

I will be lighting up the phone lines on Monday to find out what happened and to emphasize this cannot become a pattern.

 

William

 

Miller Solar

17395 Oak Road, Atascadero, CA 93422

805-438-5600

www.millersolar.com

CA Lic. 773985

 

 

From: RE-wrenches [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Lou Russo via RE-wrenches
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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Optics

 

All my sites are currently down.

 

Not related but I tried to call tech support yesterday during business hours and got message saying thank you for calling Outback Sales leave a message.

 

I do hope they are just in transition but I got a bad feeling about this. I hope I am wrong.

 

Has anyone heard for sure who bought them? I know they were bought from talking to tech support but that is all I know and the Internet has 0 info on a recent sale. 

 

On Sat, May 18, 2024, 6:48 AM Dan Fink via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

Mine all went down yesterday at noon MDT. I wonder if this has to do with the sale of Outback?


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On Sat, May 18, 2024 at 10:17 AM William Miller via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:

Friends:

 

100% of our Optics sites are down since 11 AM yesterday. Is it just us?

William Miller
Miller Solar.com
805-438-5600
www.millersolar.com

 

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