A few years back (like 15-20), a customer asked me to stock a complete board 
set for the 12V FX in his RV.. Hadn’t heard from him in years so I called his 
wife.. turned out he died and the estate sold the RV.. So I’m still sitting on 
a 15 something year old  complete board set for a 12V FX (Still in the 
original, unopened packing).. can’t remember if it was for vented or sealed.. 
Might be for the mobile unit, so it might switch Neutrals when it locks on to 
shore power.. Guess I could dig it out and see.. Send me your address.. I’ll 
send it for free.. The barn could use the space.
db

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On Aug 14, 2024, at 6:27 PM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches 
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Michael,

Your AC Relay contacts on the utility side are dead... the AC Relay boards on 
the VFX need to be changed out, or you need to pull it and replace the relay.   
Those relays have 12 to 14 solder points, so unless you have the "Jig" for 
desoldering them, it's a nightmare to replace without it.

You can use the U series to charge like that, but it may not be able to get the 
voltage to 2.45vpc to 2.5vpc (14.7 to 15volts), and you may not have enough 
current to charge those batteries by itself in a reasonable amount of time, so 
do expect long generator runtimes.

You may be able to find one out there. They are pretty easy to replace, but you 
have to take extra care not to pinch the two ribbon cables that attach to them.


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On Wed, Aug 14, 2024 at 3:14 PM Michael Welch via RE-wrenches 
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wrote:
Wrenches. I am hesitant to post here, since I am not really a Wrench. I feel 
like maybe I can get by with it since I'm so involved with running the list. So 
...

After many years, my VFX 2812 stopped charging my batteries, but continues 
powering my home.

The VFX 2812 is mounted to a Midnite e-panel, with two PV inputs (MX-60 and an 
old Heliotrope CC-60), a FlexNet DC, HUB, and a Mate2. A battery temp sensor is 
between two of my Surrette 2-KS-33P batteries.

Some time ago, the red error light behind the clear cover on the inverter 
started blinking, but it continued charging from our 7 kW generator -- so I 
suspect it had nothing to do with my current charging problem. Discussing with 
Bill Battagin, the light was possibly a fan error, apparently a bit common.

I tried switching generators, as the first one showed 64 CPS, but that did not 
help.
When I start the generator, the AC In light on the Mate2 on (and stays on), and 
I hear an inverter relay clicking as if the generator warm-up delay feature 
keeps going through its cycle. The house lights flicker at the same time as the 
click, but charging never happens.

I've re-seated all the Cat-5 cables with Outback contact goop on all ends, and 
I replaced the Mate2 cable with a new Outback one. I've checked and tightened 
all the connections in the e-Panel and batteries.

Question 1:
So what can I do to further diagnose or even fix this? Buying a new or even 
used VFX inverter is out of the question, financially.

Question 2:
I still have my old Trace U2512 inverter. I'd like to hook its charger into the 
 e-Panel, as a temporary situation -- for times like last week when we were 
fogged in for a few days, letting my batteries get a lot lower than I want.

I would not use the AC output on the Trace, but would continue powering my home 
with the VFX. I figured I would put the Trace battery cables in parallel with 
the VFX so that the Trace charging will also go through the shunt so I can see 
the charge rates and levels on the Mate2.

The generator's wires would be changed from the e-Panel  AC In to the Trace AC  
In.

The last thing I want to do is further harm my equipment. What say ye to this 
temporary idea?

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