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On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 11:41 AM Ray Walters via RE-wrenches <
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> Hi Laura;
>
> You didn't state how old the batteries were. If its an "out of the box"
> problem, then I don't even consider that a warranty issue.  The company
> has an initial obligation to sell you a functioning product, not a big
> hunk of junk.  That's part of the initial sale; you bought a battery,
> you should get a battery. Speaking of Rolls, that's why I quit selling
> their batteries; they sent me a battery that was wired internally
> backwards, so it had no voltage.  This was a simple quality control
> issue they should have caught at the factory, but instead they insisted
> on charging a serious freight charge to correct it.  Never sold their
> series 5000 stuff again (sorry Steve) so they might have controlled
> costs, but they lost about a train load worth of sales with me over the
> years, so I think their internal business calculus was flawed.
>
>   I went on to sell HUP batteries (now gone, RIP) and they had what I
> thought was a very fair warranty policy. For the first year they paid
> parts, labor, and freight.  For years 2 through 7, they gave full
> credit, but the dealer paid freight and labor, and years 8 through 10
> were prorated, so you got a little credit, but definitely were going to
> be paying some.  Overall, we rarely used the warranty, but it was fair.
> I also recently had a minor issue with Midnite, and they sent a new unit
> out, at their cost, and I put the old unit in the box and sent it back
> to them.  Magnum used to be that way too, for "out of the box" or DOA
> products.
>
> The other issue, is that you quickly quit selling products you have
> trouble with.  I'm considering posting a Good, Bad, and the Ugly list of
> my experiences with all manus.....
>
> Ray Walters
> Remote Solar
>
>
> On 2/26/2026 8:59 AM, Laura Conchelos via RE-wrenches wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I need to replace a Discover rack-mounted battery under warranty. When
> > I started the RMA process, I was told I'd have to pay shipping costs
> > for the replacement battery, which I found appalling. That, of course,
> > is on top of the fact that they will not pay any cost for my labor or
> > for the disposal of the battery. I'm in a rural area, so disposal is
> > difficult. If anyone knows of a place to dispose of lithium batteries
> > in Denver, please let me know. I can haul it up with me next time I go!
> >
> > I'm not as surprised that Discover is not paying for my labor. though
> > that sucks. It's a fight to get Solaredge to pay for my labor for
> > inverter replacements and I've never been reimbursed for
> > module replacement. But the shipping really surprised me. I've never
> > had to pay shipping for an RMA before.
> >
> > So I'm wondering what costs y'all are having to absorb when RMA-ing
> > equipment these days? A guy at Discover told me that Sol Ark was now
> > charging shipping for replacement products?
> >
> > It feels very bad to have to pass these costs onto the consumer when
> > the equipment they purchased fails, so I guess these are costs I'm
> > going to have to build into the initial install going forward. Thoughts?
> >
> > Laura Conchelos
> > Sandhill Solar LLC
> > Monte Vista CO
> >
> >
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