Re: [RE-wrenches] Discover battery RMA costs

[MDElectricSolar via RE-wrenches]

Steve, thank you for so much for opening this up. As a Solar contractor I fully expect the manufacturer of the failed product to make me whole with the product and sometimes that does include freight costs. We would not even be talking about it if the product had not failed for some reason. It would also be reasonable to expect some type of labor compensation for my time troubleshooting and repairing or replacing the product that has failed. Some manufacturers do this somewhat and some don't do it at all. The best solution would be for distribution to step up and help accommodate replacement of a battery or inverter or solar panel, typically they would have replacements in stock and then ship them back to the manufacturer as time allows. Michael D Nelson MD Electric & Solar, Inc. 707-684-0064 mobile 707-884-1862 office www.mdelectricsolar.com www.facebook.com/mdelectricandsolar On Feb 26, 2026, at 9:25 AM, Steve Higgins via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote:  Not that anyone asked for it — and I hope this doesn’t come back to bite me — but here’s a view from the manufacturer’s side. These are my personal experiences based on more than 30 years in the industry, not the official position of Surrette/Rolls Battery. I’ve worked for manufacturers for the majority of my career. Back in the old Trace Engineering days, around 1995, I was fresh out of college (2-3 years) and new to the industry. I remember sitting in a meeting with upper management and asking this exact question. At the time, I believed that if something was determined to be a warranty issue, we should also cover the shipping costs under that warranty. One of the senior managers explained it this way: manufacturers have to control costs carefully. Warranty is often the “red-headed stepchild” of a company — yet it is a necessary part of doing business. If it isn’t managed properly, it can quickly become unsustainable and can definitely give the company a black eye.   A significant portion of the customer base in this industry does not live in urban or suburban environments. Many customers live in remote locations — often down a dirt road or in the mountains. Shipping to these areas can be extremely expensive. In some cases, freight costs alone can rival the cost of the product itself. The perspective shared with me was that while we absolutely stand behind our product when there is a legitimate defect, a manufacturer cannot reasonably absorb unlimited shipping costs based solely on a customer’s geographic location. That conversation has stayed with me. Over the years, I’ve come to better understand the balance manufacturers must strike between supporting customers and maintaining financial responsibility. At Surrette, when we process a warranty replacement, we typically piggyback those shipments with normal distributor stocking orders. We do this at no additional charge. However, if a shipment needs to go directly to the customer, or if shipping originates from a distributor’s warehouse to the end user's or installer's site, we do not cover those freight costs. There are exceptions. Usually, for verified out-of-the-box failures, I can get shipping covered under warranty, but shipping to locations without loading docks or down a dirt road is usually a non-starter.   Steve Higgins.  On Thu, Feb 26, 2026 at 8:50 AM Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar via RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org> wrote: Bill for everything !      Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar "we go where powerlines don't" https://offgridsolar1.com/ e-mail offgridso...@sti.net text 209 813 0060 On 2026-02-26 7:59 am, Laura Conchelos via RE-wrenches wrote: Hi all, I need to replace a Discover rack-mounted battery under warranty. When I started the RMA process, I was told I'd have to pay shipping costs for the replacement battery, which I found appalling. That, of course, is on top of the fact that they will not pay any cost for my labor or for the disposal of the battery. I'm in a rural area, so disposal is difficult. If anyone knows of a place to dispose of lithium batteries in Denver, please let me know. I can haul it up with me next time I go!   I'm not as surprised that Discover is not paying for my labor. though that sucks. It's a fight to get Solaredge to pay for my labor for inverter replacements and I've never been reimbursed for module replacement. But the shipping really surprised me. I've never had to pay shipping for an RMA before.    So I'm wondering what costs y'all are having to absorb when RMA-ing equipment these days? A guy at Discover told me that Sol Ark was now charging shipping for replacement products?    It feels very bad to have to pass these costs onto the consumer when the equipment they purchased fails, so I guess these are costs I'm going to have to build into the initial install going forward. Thoughts?   Laura Conchelos Sandhill Solar LLC Monte Vista CO   _______________________________________________ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance Pay optional member dues here: http://re-wrenches.org List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change listserver email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org There are two list archives for searching. 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