On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:32 AM, David A. Wheeler <[email protected]> wrote:
>> LOL, I prefer git to anything else for that matter.  Tell me how to
>> clone your git repo and I'll send you git bundle files or whatever (or
>> if you can arrange to get me a publicly-accessible repo I can push to,
>> that's better).
>
> Excellent, we'll switch to git.
>
>> I have a github account but it's not pure FOSS so I
>> guess you might refuse to consider it.
>
> I'd really rather use a system with a FLOSS implementation.  I'll work with 
> projects that are already on github, but that's different.
>
> I'll probably switch to SourceForge 2.0 (Allura) first, then switch the CM 
> system to git.  I think that would be a far gentler transition than the 
> alternatives.  It may take a few days because of the US' July 4th holiday, 
> but I wouldn't expect the transition to take long.  If you hate that idea, 
> please let me know.
>
> By the way, I just added a "screenshot" to the SourceForge web page:
>  https://sourceforge.net/projects/readable/
> For a text processor a screenshot is slightly silly, but maybe not... it does 
> show the point.
>
>> As for the project... unfortunately it may have some application to my
>> day job, and my employer might want it (employment contract makes
>> employer claim ownership of anything I make during term of employment
>> that appertains to (and a half-dozen other legalese) any products
>> tools (and a half-dozen other legalese) that the employer deals in).
>> So I'll see (in a month, maybe) what my employer says about making it open
>
> I completely understand.  Well, we'll collaborate to the extent allowed.
>
>> - I prefer a GPL for it myself
>
> For applications I prefer GPL as well.  But for libraries like this, where we 
> want maximum acceptance/use, I think MIT (or LGPL) would be a better choice.  
> We're already fighting against a mindset by many people that "S-expression 
> syntax cannot be improved on"; having to fight licensing too would not help 
> adoption.

Employment contract doesn't cover work that has absolutely no bearing
on my work at the company, and I think we can reasonably strongly
claim that (since the company doesn't deal in Lisp) any
sweet-expressions work I do isn't going to need copyright disclaimer
(although the FSF still recommends that you get a copyright disclaimer
nonetheless, just to make it really sure).  I agree with the licensing
strategy for sweet-expressions.

>
>> (it *might* be an important
>> advance in my day job, especially if I can keep it free as in
>> freedom), and might very well not make it at all if my employer
>> refuses to disclaim any copyright interest or FOSS it.  But at least
>> sweet-expressions get *something* as a side effect even if it doesn't
>> pan out (at the very least, I expect a 0.3 release of the spec from
>> our recent discussions).
>
> An improved spec is certainly useful.  And if you can't get them to release 
> the implementation, perhaps they can agree on releasing test cases.  A big 
> set 'o test cases would help increase the likelihood that (1) we all 
> understand the spec's implications and (2) the implementation actually 
> implements it correctly.

Company doesn't deal in Lisps, so I think I might personally safely
release simple test cases for the sweet-expressions reader.

Sincerely,
AmkG

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