On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:51 PM, Scott Wyatt wrote:
This is part of my point about Delphi v. RB. Delphi was designed for
database solutions, so this comment shows why RB trying to sell to
Delphi shops is off-target:
Trausti Thor Johannsson wrote:
On this note. Name me one real world class product that is written
in Delphi. Not some DB frontend financial app, not delphi itself.
True, even the popular Delphi apps are databases. Duh? That's how
Delphi was positioned. Borland never sold Delphi as general purpose --
they sold it as a replacement for aging xBASE, Paradox, and Reflex
apps. I moved to Delphi precisely because the mid-range POS solutions
in the 1980s were in xBASE and Paradox. RB doesn't have the same level
of database support, by itself.
Examples of Delphi:
Cold Fusion Studio-MX (next version to use MS tools, though),
NetObjects (most of their stuff), Timeslips (huge in hourly billing),
HomeSite (which was the best HTML editor on Windows for a time),
Net2Phone, DBF-Desktop, SQL Navigator, Dilbert: Not Just a Calendar (I
love that one!)
Borland positioned Delphi as a DB tool and focused most of their
energies on database-related issues. That is why the grid tools are so
good. The box lists database tools and included drivers, grids,
charting tools, reporting tools, etc. The Delphi box doesn't mention
writing games, graphic editors, or anything else.
Again, this is an issue of what tool fits a particular job. Trying to
sell Delphi users on RB, which is clearly what Geoff wants to do, then
the database portions of RB need to be put on steroids. Most, if not
all, my issues with RB relate to data-related controls like the
listbox (dbgrid), no reporting tool included, no charting included,
etc.
I'm using RB on a Mac for database front ends. So far, it lacks tools
I had in Delphi. That was my point and my only point. Delphi users
tend to be data hounds in IT departments, or indie database devs.
Or developers of sophisticated engineering software, as in one case
with which I am familiar. This company doesn't use C at all -- they
use VB or Delphi, with libraries for the crunching written mostly in
Fortran.
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Charles Yeomans
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