There is a tendency among people, not just on this list, but still markedly so here too, not to manifest any interest until the goods are materially visible/available; be it beta software, meetings or else. Most people are ready to consume, but few roll up their collective sleeves to help kick-start a project.
I do agree with Phil that cost *is* an issue, especially for – but not restricted to – us Europeans. As I mentioned some time before RW 2006, between the actual cost of the conference, the plane ticket, the visa costs [and the time frame; these days it takes 4 months to get an interview at the US Embassy in Paris, and the costs are around 150$...] and other expenses, my budget was close to the cost of a DualCore PowerMac. G5, but still. In the early stages of the first RW, and possibly of the second edition, I mentioned to the people in charge back then that a large city closer to the US water fronts, like SF, NYC or other hubs, would have been a better choice in terms of a location if RS wanted to attract foreign attendees, as there are more flights – and thus cheaper flights. I am happy to see that a few years later other people are making the same proposal, and I hope they'll have more success than I had... However, with the creation of a European branch of RS, we may start dreaming of a Euro-RealWorld or similar RS-initiated meeting. I am sure that between RS's own staff and other Europe-based RS clients, there is enough talent to organize regular meetings somewhere in Europe, maybe even on a rotating basis, depending on the percentage of active customers in a country [I'd guess Germany would be somewhere near the top, along with the UK...]. Same goes for RS China, I am sure that an Asian meeting could be workable for them – albeit maybe not their priority. I for one would gladly join such meetings – possibly both as an attendee and a trainer – and could help with the organisation, as I have quite some experience with organizing such events. But I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens with RB Europe first! Likewise, as I am half of the time in Asia, should a conference be organised in China/Asia – and held in English! – I would probably attend. My 0.02€ -- dda libcurl4RB, [S]FTP transfers made easy http://sungnyemun.org/?q=node/8 RBDeveloper Columnist, "Beyond the Limits" http://rbdeveloper.com On 3/4/06, Phil M <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mar 3, 2006, at 7:20 PM, Joseph J. Strout wrote: > > > But, so far only about two people have expressed any serious > > interest. That's not enough to support a weekend training at all, > > rendering the location rather moot. We should probably table this > > thread, unless anyone else wants to say, "Yes, I'd drop a thousand > > bucks to fly somewhere for a weekend and get in-depth coaching on > > the following topics..." > > There is serious interest, for me at least, but there are a lot of > issues that would need to be worked out. > > I am trying to work full time with REALbasic (and some graphic design > jobs) but the money is slowing coming in. > > So for me money is an issue, and if I had the money I would have gone > to REAL World this year. The "problem" with REAL World is not the > cost of the conference, but the cost of the airfare and hotel which > brings the total cost over $1500. A cabin in the woods is an > excellent idea because it would significantly lower the cost for > lodging. > > I don't think that this issue should be dropped... > > What I think is that there should be 2 or 3 individuals that are > willing to sponsor/manage a training seminar to start researching the > costs involved in putting something on. We would need something with > lodging for 3 nights for 12-16 people, a large room for meetings, > hopefully internet access, and something worked out for meals > (continental breakfast, catered lunch, and dinner on your own). It > would also be best if the location picked is somewhere close to a > major airport hub and yet the cost for lodging would not be > excessive... like perhaps Denver in August?
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