Hmm...sure it's not a hardrive (or defrag issue)? I haven't heard of anyone not being able to save their files here so far...you're the first that I know of....statistically, your system might be the cause.

No, i'm not working for RB hehe....but I would assume that file management, in any IDE (whether it saves text or binary files) would be the FIRST thing being tested as it's the most important feature is to be able to "safely" save files no matter what format is used. it's worked here on both my systems quite flawlessly too.

Just making sure all avenues are covered before finger pointing points to RB :-).

Stephane Richard


----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Mankoff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "REALbasic NUG" <[email protected]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:28 AM
Subject: A pox on thee


Damn you REALbasic. Damn you. Never before has a programming language given
me nightmares, but last night I had a GroundHogDay (Bill Murray) type dream.
Why? Because RB cannot even save a freakin' file, so I have to code the same
thing over and over and over again.


I put a pox on thee. As a matter of fact, as soon as I'm done with this
email, I'm going to try to find a green cube and I'm going to stick pins in
it. This company shouldn't die as they have potential, but they need to
understand the pain they put some programmers through. Worst of all, there
is no good reason for this pain.


Why, or why, oh WHY was this decision made? Which engineer or manager
decided to a) use a proprietary binary file format and b) force users to use
their editor? You don't need to find out who made the decision, but you need
to look at the process that allowed such a stupid, evil, short sighted,
limiting, and dumb decision to get made, and fix the process.

99.9% of all other programming languages store code in a plain file. Why did
you try to improve on this? 99% of other IDE software allows you to use
another editor, you are not forced to their IDE. Why do you insist on
locking me in? A text editor with a save function is one of the most basic
programs after Hello World. It is taught in hundreds of learn-to-program
books and CS 101 courses. Yet you cannot even provide me with a text editor
that can reliably save text. Why not?!?!? It is very nice of you to provide
an IDE. Thank you. But why have you locked me into it, when it cannot
perform the most simple of tasks: editing and saving text.


The RB language is nice, but not worth the hassle. Due to the IDE I'm
evaluating Qt, where I can use whatever IDE I like: emacs, BBedit, Eclipse,
*OR* the Qt editor. If Qt takes 20% longer to develop the same project it
will be worth it to me, as the RB IDE retards me by 50%.


 -k.
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