On Apr 22, 2006, at 3:55 PM, Hans-Georg wrote:

Am 22.04.2006 um 23:56 schrieb Terry Ford:

And I feel pain every time I have to use pre 2005 stuff. :)

Isn't  that a little childish for a 59 years older?

Is it childish to want the most up-to-date version of Rb in order to compete with others in todays changing market?

Is it childish to want to be able to create software for the new Intel Macs?

Is it childish to want Universal Binaries?

You won't see any of these by wishing for the old complier to be restored.

I and others wrote about comparative advantages of a 4 (four!) year old version.

In writing programs for pre-intel systems you may be right.

If you have time you should read a book by Albert O. Hirschman: Exit, Voice, and Loyalty. It's a classic and as such it has its own entry in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exit%2C_Voice% 2C_and_Loyalty

"Members of an organization, whether a business, a nation or any other form of human grouping, have essentially two possible responses when they perceive that the organization is demonstrating a decrease in quality or benefit to the member: they can exit (withdraw from the relationship); or, they can voice (attempt to repair or improve the relationship through communication of the complaint, grievance or proposal for change) ... Disgruntled customers ask for the manager, or they choose to shop elsewhere."

The disgruntled people are always the most vocal. They *may* not represent the majority of the user base. The so-called "Silent Majority".

That is a perfect description for a classic Mac user confronted with the new IDE. What is happening here? No other major Mac product I know ever had such a drastic fall in popularity, perceived quality etc as RB. The Word 6 fiasco came close, but Microsoft quickly realized the problem and moved back.

I cannot answer in this area other than to say that Apples own software has improved since OSX 1. They didn't accomplish this by looking backwards for solutions.

So what is happening every time you and the usual suspects try to silence the critics? Aren't there any real men in Texas anymore? Are you the list's deputy sheriffs now?

How did I try to silence anyone. All I offered were my own personal opinions based on my experience with REALbasic for 5 years.

I call you the CRI's, the customer relationship idiots (and I don't think you are stupid). Because by silencing the critics you make them choose the alternative and they leave.

You always have that option if you so choose. I also have no association with RS in any way other than being a customer like yourself. Please refrain from labeling other people based on an assumption.

I am sure that this has already happened and not in a small scale (it's the only explanation for me that a favorite programmer isn't on board anymore but still here) and I can tell you that this not in your best interest.

I think I can take care of myself as far as what my best interests are.

What I can't understand is why you turned the focus of the thread towards me personally. It is a rather ineffective way to solve any perceived problem.

Terry

PS. I generally refrain from responses to personal attacks. Hopefully this thread might end as it has strayed very far from its original message.


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