Would be interesting to know if RS use ( or have written ) any regression
testing and unit testing tools.  They can take a lot of effort to set up )
often requiring separate test staff resource just to set up the test cases
and harness etc ) but might help.

I am hoping that once the horrid task of migrating to UB is over, things
will settle down. 


On 26/9/06 20:15, "Norman Palardy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> 
> On Sep 26, 2006, at 12:38 PM, Daniel Stenning wrote:
> 
>> I honestly think that the only way RB can attain some kind of
>> "ubiquity"
>> against the behemoth of Microsoft and entrenched "pro" cachet of C+
>> +,  is to
>> free advanced RB professional developers from having to resort to C
>> just to
>> get the desired speed. There is no reason why RB cannot be both an
>> easy
>> language to learn AND one that provides enough options to do things
>> the C
>> way where it is desired.
> 
> stability stability stability
> 
> C and C++ are widely used because their runtime are very stable. Very
> few show stopping bugs in long established code.
> Cure they give you the rope to hang yourself if you write bad code,
> but the standard libraries they include rarely do this to you.
> It's not JUST speed you get from C and C++. In fact if you want speed
> for certain kind of algorithms Fortran still blows the doors of C and
> C++.
> And in other Snobol is better.
> If you want speed write in hand optimized assmebler for your platform.
> It's been a while but the Vax assembler I used to write was always
> faster than anything the compilers could chunk out. It just took
> longer to get the speed improvements.
> 
> Since RB is a "closed" language (there are no third party compilers)
> and the runtime is also not "open" like C/C++ standard libraries are
> they need to be very bug free.
> While I certainly LOVE lots of compiler optimizations, for me
> significantly reduced bug counts would be even more welcome.
> Speed with lots of bugs is not useful.
> 
> As for being able to write anything in RB that's an eventuality.
> 
> But I'd take stable, relatively bug free runtimes first
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