Sorry, but gotta add my $.02, too! There's a saying, "You can get two of the following three at the cost of the other, 'price, quality, speed'. This certainly applies in the foodservice business, and I suspect it applies in software engineering, too! i.e. if you want fast, cheap food, then don't expect restaurant quality, expect McBurger quality. Likewise, if you want fast, high-quality food, expect to pay a premium for it. Ditto for software. If you want software fast, expect low quality. Or, as I like to say, "You can do it right, or you can do it right now, but not both.) I think this quote came from Douglas Adams' 'Hitchhiker's guide...', but I'm not sure... This one is definitely true! One of the big problems, IMHO, with software engineering, is that metrics are a lot harder to come by, unlike hardware, where you can just hook a scope/logic analyzer/data logger/etc... to the circuit to see if it works (right voltage/current, right waveform shape and timing, etc...) How does one measure the BQ "Bug Quotient" of a piece of software before it's released? Although steps have been taken in the field of 'software correctness', I think early pioneers caught on when they realized that there is NO way to conclusively prove that a software program doesn't have any bugs. And that was just for primitive programs that were SUPPOSED to start at one point, and finish at another. Modern programs are fed their input from the OS's event loop, and you don't want THAT to stop!! Let's lighten up, people. Hopefully, now that RS is using RB to build RB, they can clear up a lot of the doodlypoop in 2007r2.
On Apr 9, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Daniel Stenning wrote: > I seem to remember someone much more recently getting that quote > cringe-makingly and laughably wrong... > > Interestingly - ( depressingly ? ) his "rapid releases" and "product > quality" were a bit "iffy" too. > > > On 9/4/07 14:00, "Terry Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> On Apr 9, 2007, at 5:49 AM, Brad Rhine wrote: >> >>> Having been on this mailing list for several years, I can guarantee >>> that no matter what RS does, there will be a thread complaining >>> about >>> it. >> >> How true. >> >> It was Abraham Lincoln that said it best in his "You can fool some of >> the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, >> but you can not fool all of the people all of the time." speech. >> >> if you change "fool" to "please" or "satisfy", it still works. >> >> Terry >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: >> <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> >> >> Search the archives: >> <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> >> > > Regards, > > Dan > > > > _______________________________________________ > Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: > <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> > > Search the archives: > <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html> _______________________________________________ Unsubscribe or switch delivery mode: <http://www.realsoftware.com/support/listmanager/> Search the archives: <http://support.realsoftware.com/listarchives/lists.html>