okay charles, what you say is right. I guess I've been keeping my head down, studying, 
REBOL, Hardware, Maths, Assembler, buying a house amongst other things.

I only really read Joels & ladislavs & maarten's posts usually as I don't have much 
time these days and I admire these guys and their signal to noise ratio is
lowest on this list and the quality of their opinions, ideas & commentary are amongst 
the highest on this list and who's comment s I value.

I also tend to read the RT folks posts but Iam ocassionally dismayed by the high 
handed "Nope
We're right , your wrong" attititude they sometimes take in regards to what some users 
like myself see as inconsistancies or imperfections in REBOL as it currently is.

Sure they're busy folks and they DO A GREAT JOB!
if only they wouldn't debate REBOL with a Nixon type
view of better to appear strong (tho' wrong) than weak and right.

Right and wrong here are solely my interpretations
of the discussions / debates I've seen on this list.
Zero Indexing is a great one that springs to mind.

But If it keeps people happy in future I will keep
my opinions to myself.

Best wishes everybody, keep on REBOLling ;-)

Mark Dickson
In a message dated Thu, 7 Feb 2002  5:27:21 AM Eastern Standard Time, "chaz" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> After reading another of your lame "oh dear, I'm sorry if I offended anyone,
> how did that happen, excuse me for your misunderstanding me yet again", I
> realized how very sharply your posts stand out from everyone else's.
> 
> Made me appreciate, once again, how very high the signal-to-noise is on this
> list.
> 
> Thanks, Robbo, I guess.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 12:41 AM
> Subject: [REBOL] Re: Tuples - Was Pair! thread
> 
> 
> HOLGER / JEFF / EVERYBODY
> 
> After re-reading the tone of my earlier message I apologise if it came
> across as offensive and flamebait
> and please accept my apologies for this.
> 
> However I still think the reasoning or justification Holger gave was flawed
> hence the tuple example I gave.
> 
> Sorry for any offence caused and I'll try to ensure my future mailings are
> focused more on the issues at hand
> rahter than being misconstrued as flamebait.
> 
> Is Pair! a lame datatype?
> 
> cheers & sorry,
> 
> Mark
> 
> In a message dated Wed, 6 Feb 2002  2:59:43 PM Eastern Standard Time, Jeff
> Kreis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> >
> > Hello, robb0l:
> >
> > > seems  reasonable  to  me,  but  then  again  so  do  Joels
> > > arguments / logic,  saying pair! are only meant  to be used
> > > strictly  in a Rebol/View  pixel co-ordinate  context seems
> > > like a cop  out to me, either that  or insufficient thought
> > > goes into REBOL language  design & implementation, which is
> > > it Holger?
> >
> > Hmm.. nice piece of flamebait.
> >
> > -jeff
> >
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