Gregg

Well, I guess it's time to admit that being a complete Rebol newbie I
haven't gotten "it" yet. I'm still thinking procedurally when I
experiment in Rebol and haven't made the shift to the "Dialectic
Paradigm" yet. Reminds me of my experiments in Prolog ;-)

So in the meantime I can only stand at the base of the mountain
wondering what you are all talking about when you say "the view from the
top is fantastic!".

Michael

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Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 6:49 PM
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Subject: [REBOL] Re: Google + SOAP


Hi Michael,

<< End users should never be exposed to XML >>

Maybe that's my problem. I'm an end user. :) I happen to develop
software for a living, and have a couple hundred books related the
subject on my shelves but I'm still an end user.

<< Comparing Rebol to XML is sort of like comparing Java to HTML. One is
an action paradigm, the other is simply a markup paradigm. >>

I agree! But SOAP is an action paradigm, right? ;) The other big
difference is that REBOL, unlike most everything else out there is not
*just* an action paradigm based language, it is a messaging language.
The ability to understand data, without having to mark it up to make the
machines happy is the big difference. Now, there has to be some kind of
translator involved, the dialect in REBOL's case, but REBOL removes
layers and layers of "fog" from the whole process.

<< Rebol's dialecting may be neat but lets face it most people have
never heard of it. Rebol is not likely to become an inter system
standard anytime soon, anymore than Snobol is ever likely to become a
popular language. >>

I agree that XML will likely enjoy at least a reasonable lifecycle in
the market but it can't change the world the way that REBOL can. The
catch with REBOL is that you don't have to define it as "a standard". It
can work so covertly that people won't know, or care, what the
technology is. It just understands. Now, that isn't going to happen
overnight, but what excites me most about REBOL is how much I can do
with it now, and I'm not even scratching the surface of what it can do.

Thanks for the response!

--Gregg

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