My argument is still central then Sandy....are we afraid to objective what
we see and how we see it/them/us whatever construct you come from.
Is it discourteous of a person to mention the word fat (in frontofa fat
person), sheila (in front of women) , blokes (in front of males) , guys (in
front of women and men) , girls (in front of groups adult women).
Im reminded of redress I have recived infront of some women aboutcallingthem
Ladies and Im also reminded of redress I get when I say "woman". There
in lies truth.
Iwould rather think that we could overcome our delusionary stances
oververbal diatribe and move onto what we really understand about racism.
IE the lack of action in society, the apathy that exists, the anger that
one must tolerate if one talks about these issues. The unacceptance of
people other than our own gender or close family.
Areyou afraid todeny yourself whoyou areby thewayyou look? Any salesman will
tell you if you want the sale you have to be the part and look the part.
Lets start getting back to truths- if you dont look the same you are
different doesnt matter what society you live in. Its your actions that
makeup how people see you and how you present to people.
Despite years of words people still see that as the uncompromising truth,
its only the few 10%.
This society is moving toward anarchy becuase of it, its the actions of
onenation thatlostthem their power, but you comehere in the wilderenss of
North Queensland and youll seeone nation supportters everywhere still.
While ever we continue playing on words wewill neveracheive the real endand
that is justification,validation and equalityfor allpeople.
Regards, Lance.
----- Original Message -----
From: Sandy Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 10:58 AM
Subject: Re: [recoznet2] Redskins? Blacksins? Niggers?
> Lance, this is an interesting posting, but I think you're wrong to
> worry that choices of words are all just "political correctness".
> Someone once pointed out to me that "political correctness" is
> really just a fancy name for courtesy. The deeper problem with
> your posting is that you think naming a skin colour is bravely
> stating "who we are". I am not the equivalent of my skin colour. I
> share many characteristics with other "white" people. And I share
> some characteristics with "red" and "yellow" and "black" and
> "brown" people, as well as with the little green guys who come
> down in the spaceship for occasional chats. To use a stereotyped
> name for a skin colour (who, after all, is really "white" or "black" or
> "red") is the very definition of racism. We are all at least the sum
> of our parts, if not greater than the sum of our parts. What "race"
> we were born into is only a very small part of who we are.
>
> Cheers,
> Sandy
>
> > Theres a simple answer to your dilemma acknowledge your difference and
> > accept that you as everyone else in society have inbuilt racism your
> > inability to accept others choice of words (and thas all they are is
words)
> > suggests you have a bigger problem and that is as a result of this so
called
> > "politically correct" society which lacks the decency of people to
express
> > themselves in anyway they wish.
> > If they have made a perosnal statement to you about your colour or creed
> > your anger and frustration is acceptable. But if you chastising society
> > becuase its celebrates the difference of people and the ability of
> > marketeers and economic minded people to express and advertise
themselves to
> > sell product then I find your arguments difficult to accept.
> > We are all differentiated from people individually, collectively as a
race
> > and as next door neighbours.
> > Politically correctedness is not the way society is heading and rather
than
> > segregating people by controlling speech, we should be grasping the
words
> > and celibrating the fact that by the name redskin, blackskin, whiteskin,
> > yellowskin or any other skin that people are at least being acknowledged
for
> > who we are.
> > Be proud and happy of who you are first, show by actions and affirmation
> > that you are proud to be who you are then you are in front of the
racists
> > who slander people and denigrate them. You are better than that. I say
> > DOWN with political correctedness.
> > Regards, Lance.
> >
> > "For equal society based on active particpation and not words."
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Sioux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, August 01, 1999 5:45 PM
> > Subject: [recoznet2] Redskins? Blacksins? Niggers?
> >
> >
> > > Hau kola-pi,
> > >
> > > Just a thought. I have recently been abused in a store when asking
fro
> > the
> > > removal of an item which I find grossly offensive from the counter
top.
> > >
> > > In fact< I have had various reactions when I have come across this
before
> > > and spoken to the store owner or counter person.
> > >
> > > The offensive item are candies called 'Redskins'. A kind of red chewy
> > > thing! As a Lakhota person I find these items extremely offensive,
and
> > > whenever I come across them I always like to approach the store owner
or
> > > sales person, and explain just how I feel.
> > >
> > > Now, I guess many of you are going to think I am being silly over
this,
> > but
> > > I find this a very bad example to set to children whom I presume would
be
> > > tha main consumers of this candy. What kind of a message is it
sending to
> > > these childrem? There is even a picture I think of an 'indian' on the
> > > wrapper!
> > >
> > > Each time I approach about this problem, I speak calmly and quietly,
and
> > > attempt to explain why I am offended and ask if they would please
remove
> > > the item form display and preferably from stock.
> > >
> > > I say to people, ok, how about if this thing was some kind of licorice
> > > candy? Would they have it on their counter if it was called
Blackskins or
> > > Niggers? Of course, they usually protest that of course they wouldn't
> > > thing of doing such a thing...............and of course they shouldn't
> > either!
> > >
> > > My next reply then, is what is the difference between calling this red
> > > chewy candy a 'Redskin' and a piece of licorice a Blackskin or a
nigger?
> > >
> > > I must hasten to add here, that personally, I would never use such
words,
> > > they are not even in my vocabulary and are used here purely for the
> > > comparison! My people and all my brothers and sisters of the native
> > > american nations have strong feelings for our aboriginal brothers and
> > > sisters here.
> > >
> > > But Please can someone see what I am saying?????>
> > >
> > > I am very sad today................
> > >
> > > Sioux
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