Michael,
The followup link you sent specifically states that Red5 is *not* a
replacement for fcs/fms, and is thus not "a FMS." Red5 would be in
very murky waters if it was just a copy. I believe that any
reasonable person would interpret "Flash Media Server" to mean the
Flash Media Server sold, copyrighted, and no doubt patented left and
right by Adobe. What I find interesting is that the software license
agreement found on the FME download page eschews this clear language
and instead references "Adobe Enterprise Software" which they define
thusly: ""Adobe Enterprise Software" means the generally commercially
available versions of Adobe software branded as LiveCycle, ColdFusion
or Flex." (sec. 1b of the software license, the entire license is
reproduced below). So while it seems obvious to me from the EULA
Kevin references that FME is only legally usable with FMS or a
product that has licensed FMS, the language you now see prior to
downloading the application is not so clear. It's been a while since
I installed FME, and I'm not on a Windows machine at the moment, so I
can't check the EULA you get upon installation, but it seems there is
a somewhat mixed message from Adobe on this.
Best,
Dirk
Adobe Flash Media Encoder
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On Aug 3, 2007, at 10:30 PM, Michael Chan wrote:
> Kev
> Just to be sure that we are not in any way disrespect the software
> licensing but to be sure that you are not misleading other in comply
> with some provision that is not specific in nature and it is to allow
> users free to choose of preference.
> In this 2.1, Adobe only stated that FME must work in conjunction with
> FMS (Red5 is a FMS) and Adobe did not stated in this published article
> that for whoever use the FME, they must also required to use "Adobe"
> brand FMS, if this article become part or is part of the distribution
> license, and Adobe willing to allow users to use FMS without
> specifically required all users registered to use Adobe brand FMS,
> therefore it is fair to say Adobe itself knowing some users are using
> Red5 to be the FMS.
> If you know some legal cases that Adobe won in the past for such
> violation, please provide us with detail or link for such to support
> your comment so this community can benefit.
> MC
> On Fri, 2007-03-08 at 21:27 -0700, Kevin Towes wrote:
>> In the quote I sent earlier it states “solely to capture video…and…
>> stream the Encoded Content to Flash Media Server”. That is the limit
>> of the license. So the Adobe FME is meant to stream video only to
>> FMS. I would encourage the OS community to respect the EULA of the
>> Adobe Flash Media Encoder.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kev.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2. Software License.
>>
>>
>>
>> 2.1 Software License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this
>> Agreement, Adobe hereby grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide,
>> royalty-free license to (a) download, install and use the Software
>> solely to capture video and/or audio content (“Content”), encode the
>> Content into Flash Video Format (“Encoded Content”) and record the
>> Encoded Content to a FLV File and/or stream the Encoded Content to
>> Flash Media Server; and (b) make a reasonable number of copies of
>> the
>> Documentation solely in connection with use of the Software in
>> accordance with this Agreement, but no more than the amount
>> reasonably
>> necessary. "
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>> Behalf Of Michael Chan
>> Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 8:10 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Red5] Flash Media Encoder
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin1
>>
>> I am not sure where the term you mentioned that FME (Adobe) stated
>> that
>>
>> it is not allow in Red5, can you please detail your opinion as how do
>>
>> you come to this conclusion. As far as I understood in reading this
>>
>> along with FME license, it did not specific required FME into any
>>
>> specific Flash Media server by Adobe.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have new provision that I am not aware of.
>>
>> MC
>>
>> On Fri, 2007-03-08 at 17:35 -0700, Kevin Towes wrote:
>>
>>> Andrea – You cannot use FME with Red 5 without breaking the License
>>
>>> agreement of FME (see attached and below).
>>
>>>
>>
>>> 2. Software License.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> 2.1 Software License. Subject to the terms and conditions of this
>>
>>> Agreement, Adobe hereby grants you a non-exclusive, worldwide,
>>
>>> royalty-free license to (a) download, install and use the Software
>>
>>> solely to capture video and/or audio content (“Content”), encode the
>>
>>> Content into Flash Video Format (“Encoded Content”) and record the
>>
>>> Encoded Content to a FLV File and/or stream the Encoded Content to
>>
>>> Flash Media Server; and (b) make a reasonable number of copies of
>> the
>>
>>> Documentation solely in connection with use of the Software in
>>
>>> accordance with this Agreement, but no more than the amount
>> reasonably
>>
>>> necessary.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Kevin Towes.
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>> _
>>
>>> From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>
>>> Behalf Of Andrea :-)
>>
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 4:29 AM
>>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>
>>> Subject: [Red5] Flash Media Encoder
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Hello
>>
>>> i've just Download Flash Media Encoder.
>>
>>> I can use it in Red5 (in some Way) or not?
>>
>>> Sorry, i'm Italian, I Sperak English Just a Little
>>
>>>
>>
>>> --
>>
>>> *Andrea*
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
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