christopher j bottaro wrote:
> 
> hello,
> 
> i'm kinda new to linux and am having trouble (coming from win32)
> understanding this whole x server/desktop manager/window manager thing.  i
> kinda understand an xserver is, but when it comes to kde2 vs
> gnome/enlightenment...i'm kinda lost.
> 
> right now i run KDE2 and i like it a lot.  but i've seen screenshots of gnome
> apps running with enlightment and they are extremely visually pleasing.  is
> kde2 capable of doing this?

Probably not as well as running e and gnome together.
 
> what is kde2?  what is gnome?  what is enlightenment?

KDE and Gnome are "desktop environments".  Enlightenment is a "window 
manager".  A window manager is responsible for drawing the frames
around each window, handling the maximize/minimize/close, etc.
Enlightenment is a particularly functional window manager that does
much more than just the basics.  Desktop environments try to standardize
look and feel, support drag and drop across applications, and offer
basic services for the desktop.  They can usually be run with any
window manager that is "desktop compliant" though KDE has its own
window manager which it works best with.
 
> why does enlightenment run on top of gnome?  can it run on top of kde2?  if
> not, why not, and why does it run on top of gnome?

I think you can run enlightenment on KDE as well as gnome.  It will not
be as tightly integrated with the rest of KDE as the kwm is.
Enlightenment works with gnome because the programmer made it "gnome
compliant".
 
> why is it possible to run gnome apps from kde2?  can gnome run kde2 apps?

It is possible to run kde apps from gnome, if you've loaded the 
appropriate libraries.  It's a bit harder to run gnome apps under
KDE, depending on the app, because gnome's object model requires a
bit more infrastructure.  It can be done, though. 

> why is it that i can get gnome apps running in kde2, but they don't look half
> as good as if they were running in gnome/enlightenment?

Because they were optimized to run with gnome, and use services which
gnome offers that are only partially available under KDE, or are
different in implementation.
 
> i think i read a post on a newsgroup once abou running enlightenment in kde2.
>  the poster said that if he does this, he'd lose a lot of functionality of
> kde2, but it would look a lot better.  what does this mean?

Just what it says.  KDE was written with the idea that you would run
kwm as the window manager.  The combination of the two can do things
that other window manager's cannot, unless someone wants to go to a lot
of trouble to make a KDE-specific window manager.  But, if you're gonna
do that, why not just run kwm?
 
> i really need some light shed on this subject.  oh how i wish things were
> simple like back in the win32 days...heh, just kidding...;)

I hope this helps.  Remember -- CHOICE is a GOOD thing!  There are 
several net articles on the differences between KDE and Gnome.  You
might want to check out Linux PLanet, or other online sources.

-Scott Sharkey
Linux Unlimited, LLC



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