Ripken made the point that whenever there is a collision at the plate
the umpire always waits to see if the catcher is still holding the ball
before making the out call - so why should this be any different?
However, I think the difference is that if the collision causes the ball
to come loose, then the runner would be safe.  But in this case, the
runner was tagged, Varitek was in control and the subsequent fall caused
the ball to come loose.  If the ball came loose in the act of tagging,
the runner would have been safe, but that obviously was not the case.
 
By the way, I thought Eck seemed a little nervous on the TBS broadcast.
Not quite crisp as I'm used to hearing him on NESN.


________________________________

        From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Salemi
        Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:48 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: Dave Campbell is a tool
        
        
        Cal Ripken raised a point on the post game.  He didn't go as far
as say he should be safe, but he asked what about when there's a
collision at teh plate. If the catcher falls back after the collision
and drops the ball, the runner would be called safe. No one had an
answer as to why teh calls would be differnet. The anchor guy said maybe
it's because the runner dislodged the ball as he tried to get to teh
base.
         
        I don't see a controversy. The runner was called out five or six
feet down teh basepath.
        
        
        As for Campbell, so what? So what if we'd be outraged. We're
going to base calls on whether or not they upset the fans??
         
        Aybar blew it (and I think Scoscia frankly overmanaged.) THe ump
was fine. Scoscia only cried for 10-20 seconds. For a manager who gripes
about every ball and strike it came across as a clearly just-for-show
argument.
         
         
        On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Beaudoin, John
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
        


                There is no controversy for anyone but disgruntled
Angels fans.  When in
                doubt, ask a non-partisan baseball fan.  Even Yankee
fans would agree
                with the call.
                

                -----Original Message-----
                From: [email protected]
                [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Steve Ouellette
                Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:36 AM
                To: Red Sox Citizens
                Subject: Dave Campbell is a tool
                
                
                He's on the radio going on and on about how the runner
should have been
                safe after the missed squeeze bunt because Varitek
dropped the ball
                after the tag. How Boston would be in an uproar if a
similar call had
                been made against the Sox.
                
                He had the ball. He tagged the runner. He stumbled a
couple of steps,
                fell, hit the ground and the ball popped out. Where is
the controversy?
                
                Steve O
                
                
                
                
                                
                


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