Right.

That's why "hitting him the head" was the question.  Or, as I thought I saw
in the stands from behind the fielder, hitting his glove on a dive and going
into the stands.

Intentionally booting it into the stands is a different rule.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> And back to your previous point, Ray, the umpires do have discretion to
> award bases because of fan interference or, I would guess, fielding
> chicanery. I'd imagine if a ball were bouncing around the RF corner at
> Fenway and Ellsbury were motoring around the bases and a cagey right fielder
> "bobbled" the ball into the stands, Ellsbury would be awarded thirs base.
>
> -- Matt
>
> --- On *Wed, 10/8/08, Ray Salemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> From: Ray Salemi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Ripken
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 9:00 AM
>
>
>  BTW.  The reason I thought of this question was that, from my angle in
> the bleachers, it looked like the ball might have hit his glove.  Then
> Texeria snagged the liner and I was thinking, "wow that would have been a
> Hell of a way to end the game if that had hit his glove and it was a home
> run."
>
> Then I was thinking, "I wonder if it had hit his glove if we would have won
> alrea..." and the Lowrie hit his single.
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 6:30 PM, Charles Battikha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>
>> What the...  Who thinks of these things... Oh yeah. It's Ray.
>>
>> Of course the Right Fielder was several feet away on the ground in a cloud
>> of dust.
>> So there was no chance for the ball to strike him in the head or anywhere
>> else.
>>
>> So I'm guessing that a fielder is part of the field so no difference. If
>> it bounced
>> off his head and went into the stands fair - wouldn't it be a homerun?
>>
>> And here's my question what if it him in the head and killed the dope...
>> And the ball rattled around in the outfield? is there a stoppage of play
>> while
>> they cart his rotting body off the field? Just wondering.
>>
>>   On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Ray Salemi wrote:
>>
>>   Here's a rule question I think we resolve in the office.
>>
>> Bay's ground-rule double hit the ground fair and bounced into the stands
>> in foul territory for a ground rule double.
>>
>> What if it had high the right fielder in the head in fair territory and
>> gone into the stands in the same spot without touching the ground?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Steve Gendron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Ripken made the point that whenever there is a collision at the plate
>>> the umpire always waits to see if the catcher is still holding the ball
>>> before making the out call - so why should this be any different?  However,
>>> I think the difference is that if the collision causes the ball to come
>>> loose, then the runner would be safe.  But in this case, the runner was
>>> tagged, Varitek was in control and the subsequent fall caused the ball to
>>> come loose.  If the ball came loose in the act of tagging, the runner would
>>> have been safe, but that obviously was not the case.
>>>
>>> By the way, I thought Eck seemed a little nervous on the TBS broadcast.
>>> Not quite crisp as I'm used to hearing him on NESN.
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:48 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: Dave Campbell is a tool
>>>
>>>  Cal Ripken raised a point on the post game.  He didn't go as far as say
>>> he should be safe, but he asked what about when there's a collision at teh
>>> plate. If the catcher falls back after the collision and drops the ball, the
>>> runner would be called safe. No one had an answer as to why teh calls would
>>> be differnet. The anchor guy said maybe it's because the runner dislodged
>>> the ball as he tried to get to teh base.
>>>
>>> I don't see a controversy. The runner was called out five or six feet
>>> down teh basepath.
>>>
>>> As for Campbell, so what? So what if we'd be outraged. We're going to
>>> base calls on whether or not they upset the fans??
>>>
>>> Aybar blew it (and I think Scoscia frankly overmanaged.) THe ump was
>>> fine. Scoscia only cried for 10-20 seconds. For a manager who gripes about
>>> every ball and strike it came across as a clearly just-for-show argument.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Beaudoin, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> There is no controversy for anyone but disgruntled Angels fans.  When in
>>>> doubt, ask a non-partisan baseball fan.  Even Yankee fans would agree
>>>> with the call.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected]
>>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ouellette
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:36 AM
>>>> To: Red Sox Citizens
>>>> Subject: Dave Campbell is a tool
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> He's on the radio going on and on about how the runner should have been
>>>> safe after the missed squeeze bunt because Varitek dropped the ball
>>>> after the tag. How Boston would be in an uproar if a similar call had
>>>> been made against the Sox.
>>>>
>>>> He had the ball. He tagged the runner. He stumbled a couple of steps,
>>>> fell, hit the ground and the ball popped out. Where is the controversy?
>>>>
>>>> Steve O
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Blog: http://blog.raysalemi.com
>>
>> "Why should a sequence of words be anything but a pleasure?"  - Gertrude
>> Stein
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> --
> Blog: http://blog.raysalemi.com
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> "Why should a sequence of words be anything but a pleasure?"  - Gertrude
> Stein
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