The Jose Canseco (or Alex Rios) events show that a ball is a home run if it
gets knocked out of the park by a fielder.  It's as if it flew the extra
distance.

I think that it is a HR if it is 250 feet from the plate or more this is due
to a pair of rules.  One says that a fair ball is a ball that touches an
umpire or fielder in fair territory, and the other is the rule that says
that a fair ball that leaves the park at greater than 250 feet from home
plate is a HR. Otherwise its a double.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Steve Gendron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  We've all seen the famous blooper where the ball hits Jose Canseco off
> the head and goes over the wall.  I think that was a HR.  I'm not sure what
> happens if it hits a fielder and goes foul?
>
> If the guy dies, I think they can stop the play to get his body off the
> field, but only after the batter completes his rounding of the bases.  And
> if that happens during a playoff series, the team cannot backfill his slot
> on the playoff roster.
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Charles Battikha
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2008 6:31 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: Ripken
>
>  What the...  Who thinks of these things... Oh yeah. It's Ray.
>
> Of course the Right Fielder was several feet away on the ground in a cloud
> of dust.
> So there was no chance for the ball to strike him in the head or anywhere
> else.
>
> So I'm guessing that a fielder is part of the field so no difference. If it
> bounced
> off his head and went into the stands fair - wouldn't it be a homerun?
>
> And here's my question what if it him in the head and killed the dope...
> And the ball rattled around in the outfield? is there a stoppage of play
> while
> they cart his rotting body off the field? Just wondering.
>
>  On Oct 7, 2008, at 5:46 PM, Ray Salemi wrote:
>
>  Here's a rule question I think we resolve in the office.
>
> Bay's ground-rule double hit the ground fair and bounced into the stands in
> foul territory for a ground rule double.
>
> What if it had high the right fielder in the head in fair territory and
> gone into the stands in the same spot without touching the ground?
>
> Ray
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 5:34 PM, Steve Gendron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>  Ripken made the point that whenever there is a collision at the plate
>> the umpire always waits to see if the catcher is still holding the ball
>> before making the out call - so why should this be any different?  However,
>> I think the difference is that if the collision causes the ball to come
>> loose, then the runner would be safe.  But in this case, the runner was
>> tagged, Varitek was in control and the subsequent fall caused the ball to
>> come loose.  If the ball came loose in the act of tagging, the runner would
>> have been safe, but that obviously was not the case.
>>
>> By the way, I thought Eck seemed a little nervous on the TBS broadcast.
>> Not quite crisp as I'm used to hearing him on NESN.
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:48 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: Dave Campbell is a tool
>>
>>  Cal Ripken raised a point on the post game.  He didn't go as far as say
>> he should be safe, but he asked what about when there's a collision at teh
>> plate. If the catcher falls back after the collision and drops the ball, the
>> runner would be called safe. No one had an answer as to why teh calls would
>> be differnet. The anchor guy said maybe it's because the runner dislodged
>> the ball as he tried to get to teh base.
>>
>> I don't see a controversy. The runner was called out five or six feet down
>> teh basepath.
>>
>> As for Campbell, so what? So what if we'd be outraged. We're going to base
>> calls on whether or not they upset the fans??
>>
>> Aybar blew it (and I think Scoscia frankly overmanaged.) THe ump was fine.
>> Scoscia only cried for 10-20 seconds. For a manager who gripes about every
>> ball and strike it came across as a clearly just-for-show argument.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Beaudoin, John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> There is no controversy for anyone but disgruntled Angels fans.  When in
>>> doubt, ask a non-partisan baseball fan.  Even Yankee fans would agree
>>> with the call.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [email protected]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Ouellette
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:36 AM
>>> To: Red Sox Citizens
>>> Subject: Dave Campbell is a tool
>>>
>>>
>>> He's on the radio going on and on about how the runner should have been
>>> safe after the missed squeeze bunt because Varitek dropped the ball
>>> after the tag. How Boston would be in an uproar if a similar call had
>>> been made against the Sox.
>>>
>>> He had the ball. He tagged the runner. He stumbled a couple of steps,
>>> fell, hit the ground and the ball popped out. Where is the controversy?
>>>
>>> Steve O
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
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> Stein
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