I don't think you can look at this game-by-game. Francona and Farrell have a system to managing the bullpen for the long-term and it's working pretty well.
On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]>wrote: > But Girardi had the same situation and when the game ended, he still had > two relievers who hadn't pitched. Aceves went three, and Bruney went two > before Coke came in to pitch the 15th. You're in extra innings, which means > you don't know how long the game is going to go, which means you can't just > have guys go one inning and on to the next. You expose yourself to what > happened to Francona last night. > > --- On *Sat, 8/8/09, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Pfeh > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 11:52 AM > > > I'll grant you number 2, but I'll disagree with 1. Francona needs to manage > to the situation, not in anticipation that the game will go 15 innings, > which was an unlikely outcome. > On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> Speaking of cranky, I have to get this off my chest: Francona usually >> does a great job, but I can't understand the way he managed that game last >> night: >> >> 1. Bullpen: He took out a lot of guys after one inning when they clearly >> could have pitched more (Papelbon, Bard, Delcarmen, Saito). By managing it >> the way he did, he decided to hand the game to a 23-year-old rookie with >> four months in the minors, who was making his first major-league appearance. >> In extra innings. In Yankee Stadium. To try to stop a pennant race >> free-fall. By trying to protect his bullpen, I think he was reckless, not >> only with last night's game, but with a young pitcher's psyche. Does anyone >> remember Cla Meredith? Travis Hafner hit a 305-foot grand slam off him in >> his first appearance and was never effective again with the Red Sox. >> >> 2. Hitters: In extra innings (11th? 12th? 13th? 14th? I lost track.) they >> had two on and two out and Varitek coming to the plate. Of all lead-pipe >> cinches in the universe, it was a guarantee that he was not coming through >> with the big hit. Why not hit Mike Lowell in that instance? I know managers >> don't like hitting for the catcher because of the fear the backup might >> (MIGHT!) get hurt, but the Sox have THREE catchers on the roster. The easy >> solution is move Martinez to catcher, Youk to first and put Lowell at third. >> Then Kottaras is still on the bench. That's a total head-scratcher. I also >> think he missed an opportunity in the 6th or 7th with two on and no one out. >> He had Pedroia swing away, and he flied out to left. With Beckett pitching >> the way he was, one or two runs would have won that game. With the way this >> lineup is failing to produce, I think he had to have Pedroia bunt the >> runners along. >> >> This season is getting away fast and winning a game last night would have >> done some good to stop the bleeding. They have no shot today (Buchholz v >> Sabathia? Painful...) so they're relying on Lester tomorrow night to avoid a >> complete disaster. I just think Francona had to be more aggressive to try to >> win last night, and instead he managed the game like it was a Tuesday night >> in May against Kansas City. >> >> -- Matt >> >> >> >> --- On *Sat, 8/8/09, Matt & Olga McSorley >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Matt & Olga McSorley >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>> >> >> Subject: Re: Pfeh >> To: >> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 10:56 AM >> >> >> You're right. >> >> --- On *Sat, 8/8/09, Tom Salemi >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> >* wrote: >> >> >> From: Tom Salemi >> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > >> Subject: Re: Pfeh >> To: >> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 10:45 AM >> >> Whoa, someone's cranky. Maybe you should get to bed earlier. >> >> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> >>> Thanks, guys. You've turned my frown upside-down! >>> >>> Oh, brother... >>> >>> --- On *Sat, 8/8/09, Tom Salemi >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Tom Salemi >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: Pfeh >>> To: >>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> Date: Saturday, August 8, 2009, 10:24 AM >>> >>> >>> A-Rod is still a puke. >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM, Ray Salemi >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> You should feel better knowing that I went to bed in the 10th inning and >>>> got a good night's sleep. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 9:48 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >>>> [email protected]<http://us.mc309.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Knowing there was no way the Sox were going to score last night was >>>>> like watching a bad horror movie. You know the main character is coming >>>>> to a >>>>> bad end and there's nothing you can do about it. >>>>> >>>>> Somebody make me feel better. Tell me the lineup isn't that impotent, >>>>> or that the starting pitching will come around. Somebody help me! Lie to >>>>> me, >>>>> dammit!! >>>>> >>>>> -- Matt >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's >>>> Productivity...Quickly" >>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
