Chuck's got a good question.  How do you know Ellsbury is better than Drew,
John?  Is it the fact that Ellbury nearly misses so many balls that he's
diving constantly, or that Drew's plays are largely uneventful?

On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Charles Battikha <[email protected]> wrote:

> And what rating system do you use?
> How do you know that Jacoby is a great as you think?
>
> On Dec 17, 2009, at 8:16 PM, Beaudoin, John wrote:
>
> Drew over Ellsbury in your stat world. well, that's all I need to know
> about the value of that rating system.
>
> ------------------------------
>  *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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> *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> *Sent*: Thu Dec 17 17:12:19 2009
> *Subject*: Re: Dealing Ellsbury?
>
> If you believe in Zone Rating, then:
>
> Jacoby Ellsbury is not a defensive star. He's actually rated lower than
> Jason Bay in Zone Rating.
>         JD Drew is best in the OF for the Red Sox.
>         MIke Cameron is also very high. Equal to Drew.
>         And Youkilis is better than Adrian Gonzalez at 1st Base for a zone
> rating
>
> Having said that. I'm not sold on trading Ellsbury.
> I like having that kind of player on the team. That can make something
> happen with speed.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Dec 17, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Ray Salemi wrote:
>
> Amazing.
>
> A defensive gem whose been proven not to reach as many balls as other
> players.
>
> I wonder if he'd have to dive less if he got a better jump.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Beaudoin, John 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Hmmm. You mean stats and numbers don't accurately represent a player's
>> worth?
>>
>> Blasphemer.
>>
>> Defensively he's a gem. Had a good year at the plate, too. He gets to
>> balls and makes hits into outs. He almost gets to balls and a few times
>> makes hits into errors.
>>
>> He freaks out pitchers on the bases. Speed is important.
>>
>> So, I like him. He's a proven ML player.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>  *From*: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>
>> *To*: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> *Sent*: Thu Dec 17 13:24:27 2009
>> *Subject*: Re: Dealing Ellsbury?
>>
>> I don't think "ironic" is the word you are looking for.
>>
>> I think you are looking for "typical".
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, William Marino 
>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Ironic.  Ellsbury just won MLB.com's Defensive Player of the Year.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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