If you don't use stats what do you use?it's all you have in baseball. Sent from my iPod
On Dec 17, 2009, at 9:37 PM, "Beaudoin, John" <[email protected]> wrote: > Well then Sox mgt has been making a mistake for years not having > Drew in center. > > I never said I thought Ellsbury was great or that I wouldn't trade > him. I merely take exception to the reliance upon stats to determine > his defensive worth. > > From: [email protected] > <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu Dec 17 18:27:28 2009 > Subject: RE: Dealing Ellsbury? > > JD Drew really is a great defensive OFer. He tracks down everything > and makes it look easy. I always tell my kids to watch JD in the OF. > > How do Youk and Lowell compare at 3B? > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Battikha > Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2009 8:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: Dealing Ellsbury? > > If you believe in Zone Rating, then: > > Jacoby Ellsbury is not a defensive star. He's actually rated lower > than Jason Bay in Zone Rating. > JD Drew is best in the OF for the Red Sox. > MIke Cameron is also very high. Equal to Drew. > And Youkilis is better than Adrian Gonzalez at 1st Base for > a zone rating > > Having said that. I'm not sold on trading Ellsbury. > I like having that kind of player on the team. That can make > something happen with speed. > > > > > > On Dec 17, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Ray Salemi wrote: > >> Amazing. >> >> A defensive gem whose been proven not to reach as many balls as >> other players. >> >> I wonder if he'd have to dive less if he got a better jump. >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 5:07 PM, Beaudoin, John <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> Hmmm. You mean stats and numbers don't accurately represent a >> player's worth? >> >> Blasphemer. >> >> Defensively he's a gem. Had a good year at the plate, too. He gets >> to balls and makes hits into outs. He almost gets to balls and a >> few times makes hits into errors. >> >> He freaks out pitchers on the bases. Speed is important. >> >> So, I like him. He's a proven ML player. >> >> From: [email protected] <[email protected] >> > >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thu Dec 17 13:24:27 2009 >> Subject: Re: Dealing Ellsbury? >> >> I don't think "ironic" is the word you are looking for. >> >> I think you are looking for "typical". >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 4:23 PM, William Marino <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> Ironic. Ellsbury just won MLB.com's Defensive Player of >> the Year. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's >> Productivity in Just 12 Weeks" >> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en >> . >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en >> . >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's >> Productivity in Just 12 Weeks" >> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en >> . > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en > . > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en > . > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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