To be clear, Gonzalez would have cost the Sox $6m if the picked up his option. I concede they might have been able to sign him on the same terms as the Jays, but it wasn't a lock.
On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm being brought back to 2004, when I was told it was a waste to start > Pokey Reese at second ahead of Mark Bellhorn because defense was so much > less important than the "production" Bellhorn provided. So, I wonder, when > did defense become so important? > > In 2010 Scutaro cost will $6m, which is $3m more than Alex Gonzalez would > have cost for a marginal offensive upgrade and probably no upgrade > defensively. Beltre will cost $9m plus the $9m the Sox will have to pay > Texas or someone else to take Mike Lowell off their hands. Again, the > upgrade will be marginal. > > So, that's $12m spent on marginal upgrades. Then they spent $8m for Mike > Cameron, a guy who plays good defense and smiles a lot but whose production > is pretty average. > > So, by my count that's $20m to upgrade the team marginally. Wonder what > $20m could have bought. Hmmmm..... maybe a power-hitting corner outfielder? > Seems like there were a couple of those on the market. > > Once again, Theo's free-agent shopping gets poor marks. > > -- Matt > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ray Salemi <[email protected]> > *To:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Tue, January 5, 2010 10:48:44 AM > *Subject:* Re: Sox get Beltre > > I think it's from The Hidden Game by Palmer. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Steve Ouellette > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Where does the 7 percent come from? >> >> Steve O >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yup. We dominate that 7% of the game that defense gives you. >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> No, I think the plan is for him to catch 120 games or so, mix in some >>>> first base and DH. Varitek catches 40 or so games, preferably against >>>> lefthanders. And it would be nice if he'd remember how to catch a >>>> knuckleball. >>>> >>>> With the addition of Beltre the Sox may very well have the best defense >>>> in all of baseball -- when have we ever been able to say that? Gold glovers >>>> at 3B, 1B, 2B, and an above average guy in Scutaro at SS. Ellsbury, Cameron >>>> and Drew in the outfield -- the only real weak link (assuming Ellsbury's >>>> numbers last year were a travesty, or that he moves to LF with Cameron in >>>> CF) is behind the plate, and with the Sox pitching and defense there won't >>>> be that many guys on base to steal second. Let's play ball! >>>> >>>> Steve O >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I thought there was some concern about him catching every day. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Um, Victor Martinez? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/01/red_sox_agree_t.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Nice! Now Youk can stay at 1st. But who will catch? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ray >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity >>>>>>> in Just 12 Weeks" >>>>>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in >>>>> Just 12 Weeks" >>>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in >>> Just 12 Weeks" >>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > > > > -- > Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in > Just 12 Weeks" > www.leadingafteralayoff.com > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >--
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