BTW, the V-Mart just needs to catch for one year. Then the Sox sign Mauer, move V-Mart to 1b, move Youk to 3B, play Bugs Bunny in LF, Superman in Center and ........
[calming myself down] On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > To be clear, Gonzalez would have cost the Sox $6m if the picked up his > option. I concede they might have been able to sign him on the same terms as > the Jays, but it wasn't a lock. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm being brought back to 2004, when I was told it was a waste to start >> Pokey Reese at second ahead of Mark Bellhorn because defense was so much >> less important than the "production" Bellhorn provided. So, I wonder, when >> did defense become so important? >> >> In 2010 Scutaro cost will $6m, which is $3m more than Alex Gonzalez would >> have cost for a marginal offensive upgrade and probably no upgrade >> defensively. Beltre will cost $9m plus the $9m the Sox will have to pay >> Texas or someone else to take Mike Lowell off their hands. Again, the >> upgrade will be marginal. >> >> So, that's $12m spent on marginal upgrades. Then they spent $8m for Mike >> Cameron, a guy who plays good defense and smiles a lot but whose production >> is pretty average. >> >> So, by my count that's $20m to upgrade the team marginally. Wonder what >> $20m could have bought. Hmmmm..... maybe a power-hitting corner outfielder? >> Seems like there were a couple of those on the market. >> >> Once again, Theo's free-agent shopping gets poor marks. >> >> -- Matt >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ray Salemi <[email protected]> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Sent:* Tue, January 5, 2010 10:48:44 AM >> *Subject:* Re: Sox get Beltre >> >> I think it's from The Hidden Game by Palmer. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> Where does the 7 percent come from? >>> >>> Steve O >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yup. We dominate that 7% of the game that defense gives you. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, I think the plan is for him to catch 120 games or so, mix in some >>>>> first base and DH. Varitek catches 40 or so games, preferably against >>>>> lefthanders. And it would be nice if he'd remember how to catch a >>>>> knuckleball. >>>>> >>>>> With the addition of Beltre the Sox may very well have the best defense >>>>> in all of baseball -- when have we ever been able to say that? Gold >>>>> glovers >>>>> at 3B, 1B, 2B, and an above average guy in Scutaro at SS. Ellsbury, >>>>> Cameron >>>>> and Drew in the outfield -- the only real weak link (assuming Ellsbury's >>>>> numbers last year were a travesty, or that he moves to LF with Cameron in >>>>> CF) is behind the plate, and with the Sox pitching and defense there won't >>>>> be that many guys on base to steal second. Let's play ball! >>>>> >>>>> Steve O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I thought there was some concern about him catching every day. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Steve Ouellette < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Um, Victor Martinez? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 7:35 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2010/01/red_sox_agree_t.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nice! Now Youk can stay at 1st. But who will catch? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ray >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity >>>>>>>> in Just 12 Weeks" >>>>>>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity >>>>>> in Just 12 Weeks" >>>>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>>> . >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>>> . >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in >>>> Just 12 Weeks" >>>> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>>> . >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >>> . >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Author of "Leading After a Layoff: Reignite Your Team's Productivity in >> Just 12 Weeks" >> www.leadingafteralayoff.com >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> > >--
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