Adam West. On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I bet you have a poster of Joe West on your bedroom wall. > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi > *Sent:* Friday, June 04, 2010 8:44 AM > > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Umpires > > Yes, and these screwed up calls are just killing the sport. I'm not sure > if baseball will survive another 150 years. > > On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Yes, it is baseball's heritage to screw up calls. Let's not mess with >> that. >> >> And by the way, there is a big different between the "Amica pitch-zone" >> that Remy likes to criticize and the QuesTec system which uses 4 cameras and >> adjusts for the size of each batter. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Tom Salemi >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 03, 2010 11:55 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: Umpires >> >> Perhaps it shouldn't. No sport is as bound to history as baseball. >> >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:19 AM, William Marino >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Calling balls and strikes with a computer and video camera may not be >>> perfect, but at least it would be consistent. Players would adjust. Having a >>> different guy out there every night with a different view of the strike zone >>> is crazy. Baseball has been around for over a hundred years, and technology >>> has developed. Baseball has not. >>> >>> >>> >>> -------------------------- >>> Sent using BlackBerry >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Thu Jun 03 10:19:41 2010 >>> Subject: Re: Umpires >>> >>> Remy, Merloni and other former players question the ball and strike >>> technology, at least what's used on TV. I'm not sure it's as infallible as >>> you all like to think. >>> >>> Instant reply is a different issue entirely. I support that. >>> >>> And yes, the umpires should have consulted with one another. I'm not sure >>> it would have made a difference but it should have been done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 10:03 AM, Beaudoin, John < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I think Jerry Crasnick just lost all credibility among peers and >>> viewers. And his comments are not even worth debating. >>> >>> >>> >>> But the issue of replay is worth debating. >>> >>> Very simply, it works in football and hockey and some college >>> sports as well. It works in the same kind of close play situations that >>> occur in baseball. Did he make the catch? Were his feet in bounds? Did >>> the clock run out? Etc. It’s been proven to work. >>> >>> >>> >>> And as far as balls and strikes go, well, it’s been proven to >>> work in tennis, which is very similar in technology to the balls and strikes >>> thing. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, we have proof that it can work and I have not heard any valid >>> arguments against it. >>> >>> >>> >>> Dump the umps. >>> >>> >>> >>> John >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] [ >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >>> On Behalf Of Ray Salemi >>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:56 AM >>> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Umpires >>> >>> >>> >>> Judging by football, the crowd get's pretty happy when that >>> happens. >>> >>> >>> >>> I was at a Sox game when they overturned an Ortiz home run that >>> had been called a triple. The crowd went wild. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 7:43 AM, Matt & Olga McSorley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Jerry Crasnick on ESPN.com. This is the second media person I've >>> heard say this, and it's the absolute most daft thing I've ever read: >>> >>> >>> >>> "Inevitably, the game's sad ending is going to elicit an outcry >>> for expanded use of instant replay. It's a worthwhile debate, but consider >>> this for a second: How gratifying would it have felt if Joyce's botched call >>> was followed by a trip to the replay booth, a five-minute conference, the >>> umpiring crew emerging from the tunnel and Joyce throwing up his right arm >>> with an "out" sign. >>> >>> Yes, Galarraga would have had his perfect game, on paper, but >>> that single transcendent moment of celebration is something that can never >>> be retrieved. In baseball or any other sport, winners don't get mulligans on >>> euphoria." >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: Steve Gendron <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> To: "[email protected]" < >>> [email protected]> >>> >>> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:39:13 AM >>> Subject: RE: Umpires >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> When you watch the play, you see that as Gallaraga comes off the >>> bag, he shifts the ball in his glove. To the naked eye, it could appear >>> that he didn't have control of the ball until after he was off the bag. In >>> slow motion, it is apparent that he did have control of the ball while on >>> the bag. I think that is why Joyce called him safe. >>> >>> >>> >>> Other than instant replay, it would be tough to automate calls >>> like this. But balls and strikes at home plate should be a piece of cake. >>> Dump the umps. >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] [ >>> mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] >>> On Behalf Of Matt & Olga McSorley >>> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:13 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: Umpires >>> >>> I think Joyce knew he blew the call right away. Cabrera >>> at first, and then Leyland after the 28th out was recorded, read him the >>> absolute riot act and Joyce stood there and took it. Umps don't take that >>> kind of crap unless they know they're wrong. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- Matt >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: "Beaudoin, John" < >>> [email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> >>> Sent: Thu, June 3, 2010 8:05:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: Umpires >>> >>> Sorry Steve. >>> But that's your self-imposed criterion. It's not mine. >>> >>> Costing that pitchers millions in endorsements and income >>> is cause enough. >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> >>> From: [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] < >>> [email protected]> >>> Sent: Thu Jun 03 04:53:41 2010 >>> Subject: RE: Umpires >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > But the ultimate measure of an enforcement mechanism >>> is whether or not it disrupted the competitive balance of a game. It did >>> not. >>> >>> >>> >>> But it easily could have. 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