Yeah, he definitely could have done a better job. But his story was all over the national sports outlets, for a short time anyway. I find it interesting that we are talking about his reports about the size of the contract today, after he had the story wrong yesterday. Short memories I guess.
I have not seen The Paper, but I'll check it out on Netflix. ________________________________ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Salemi Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:49 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Deal Done Steve, there's a scene in one of my all-time favorite movies, The Paper. Two editors are arguing over what headline best describes a grisly crime in NYC and the arrest of two teenage suspects. One editor wanted "Gotcha;" the other pushed for "They didn't Do it" because he was confident the arrest was just a publicity move by the police departmetn but couldn't prove it. When he raised the fact that the two kids arrested for the crime might actually be innocent, the other editor - his boss - countered that "We only have to be right today." It's an entertaining bit of hyperbole, but it's germane to this. Heyman might have been right, at that minute. What he didn't do was provide the necessary analysis that this might just be a bargaining ploy and the deal could still get done. I guess it's slightly embrassing, but I think reporters are cut a lot slack for missing context because they need to rush to get the story out. And there's an understanding that any article can be rewritten and republished the next minute or hour. At the of the day (or the hour or the minute) I bet only a relative handful of people saw this article so all will be forgotten. But he could have done a better job, in my opinion. On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Frankly, this is no better than "Let's talk about it in April." Because, I can assure you that A-Gon's agent will change his mind once the Sox have put him in the lineup. Ray On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: It's not a "side deal", it's just the timing of the deal - the start date - that they are setting. That kind of thing is fine, but it just means the "customer", A-Gon in this case, could still change his mind. That makes me a little uneasy - but I'm sure it will be fine. Glad to hear Heyman had it wrong. You reporters out there, don't you think this kind of thing should be embarrassing to Heyman and SI? Doesn't this damage his credibility in the journalistic world? ________________________________ From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 9:18 PM To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: Deal Done I can't believe that would be allowed. We, in software sales, can't do anything called a "side-agreement". I'm sure that's not allowed for the Sox. They're deals are much bigger than ours. On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Steve Ouellette <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If they sign him to the extension now, his average annual salary is factored into the luxury tax calculations for this year. If they wait until after opening day, only his $6 million or so on his current contract goes on the books -- so about $17 million less on the luxury tax figures. Steve O On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:45 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I don't understand this. How does dorking around with the negotiations help with the luxury tax? On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Yeah, that's kind of iffy. I feel dirty. On Dec 5, 2010 8:41 PM, "Steve Ouellette" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Or the Sox were just making it LOOK like they really, really couldn't agree on a deal so the commish's office doesn't investigate anything fishy when they wait until after opening day -- which actually does give them a large luxury tax advantage. Steve O On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Do you think the negotia... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]<mailto:redsoxcitizens%[email protected]>. 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