Now will this mean that we are out of the Crawford - Lee haggling/running? On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:21 AM, <[email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > wrote:
> Today's Topic Summary > > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/topics > > - Deal > Done<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_group_thread_0>[16 > Updates] > - Adrian Gonzalez > goodness<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_group_thread_1>[12 > Updates] > > Topic: Deal > Done<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/t/fab0f740775c4d5a> > > Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> Dec 05 04:53PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Jon Heyman just reported via twitter that the deal has been completed > for > A-Gon.... > > Deal is done. A gon headed to #redsox. Press conf expected tomorrow > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/a88e20d768e0a53b> > > > Ray Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:14PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > And people wonder why I ignore the 24-hour news cycle. > > > -- > Author of Robot > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/fe9318d1666ba1a5> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:24PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I don't people care all that much. > > Globe says trade is done but extension won't be announced until after > opening day to save on luxury tax. Sounds sketchy but I'm good. > > On Dec 5, 2010 8:14 PM, > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/c9f5dc0dbc9f8306> > > > Ray Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:35PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Do you think the negotiators were using the press, or was the press > just > getting random bits of information? > > > -- > Author of Robot > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/184f04b21dd9d180> > > > Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:40PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Or the Sox were just making it LOOK like they really, really couldn't > agree > on a deal so the commish's office doesn't investigate anything fishy > when > they wait until after opening day -- which > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/169c9f1f8bb79006> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:41PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Good question. I suspect that it was the former because John Heyman was > getting all the tidbits. > > On Dec 5, 2010 8:36 PM, "Ray Salemi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do you think the negotiators > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/5e04858986220a87> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:43PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Yeah, that's kind of iffy. I feel dirty. > > On Dec 5, 2010 8:41 PM, "Steve Ouellette" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Or the Sox were just making it LOOK like they really, really couldn't > agree > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/738c971c5bbee53c> > > > Ray Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:45PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I don't understand this. How does dorking around with the negotiations > help > with the luxury tax? > > > -- > Author of Robot > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/63aa05b03284de32> > > > Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:52PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > If they sign him to the extension now, his average annual salary is > factored > into the luxury tax calculations for this year. If they wait until > after > opening day, only his $6 million or so on his > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/e002a665a64d1669> > > > Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> Dec 05 05:54PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Heyman reports deal is 8 years $168m. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, December 5, 2010 > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/ea5065489a775dc5> > > > Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> Dec 05 08:57PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I head seven years, $161 million, so maybe that report figures in his > current remaining $6 million year? > > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Matt & Olga McSorley > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/59ed5107199a3d79> > > > Ray Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 09:18PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I can't believe that would be allowed. > > We, in software sales, can't do anything called a "side-agreement". I'm > sure that's not allowed for the Sox. They're deals are much bigger than > ours. > > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/9038770a994888d5> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 09:45PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I agree. If the terms are that detailed they have to be included. > > On Dec 5, 2010 9:18 PM, "Ray Salemi" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I can't believe that would be allowed. > > We, in software sales, > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/e561a0e8e14419df> > > > Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> Dec 05 07:12PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Jerry Crasnick of ESPN says no deal agreed to. So, who the hell knows? > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Tom Salemi <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/94afd23bd94261f0> > > > Ray Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 10:16PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > The press doesn't. > > We should just make up rumors and tell each other they are true. We'd > have > the same quality of information, but it would be fun writing our own > stories. > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/95b3b266731065d> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 10:17PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Don't much care either. WOOO FRIGGING HOOO! > > On Dec 5, 2010 10:12 PM, "Matt & Olga McSorley" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Jerry Crasnick of ESPN says no deal agreed to. So, who the hell knows? > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/ad7a4e9ba514427c> > > Topic: Adrian Gonzalez > goodness<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/t/5e81430437ce916d> > > Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> Dec 05 10:51AM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > A guy on SOSH superimposed Fenway Park over Gonzalez's PETCO hit chart > last > year, and by my count, 19 of his home flyball outs would have hit or > gone > over the wall in Boston. > > Also, shamelessly > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/4ccdc809c755e7b1> > > > Ray Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 11:10AM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Don't get too excited about the left field home runs. Many of those > will be > doubles. > > That said, I like doubles! > > > > -- > Author of Robot > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/ad40c499197890eb> > > > Steve Gendron <[email protected]> Dec 05 12:13PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Say it ain't so... > > > > http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/baseball/mlb/12/05/gonzalez.redsox.deal.off/index.html?eref=sihp > > > > ________________________________ > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/57b32346826e7855> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 03:30PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Oh man > > On Dec 5, 2010 3:13 PM, "Steve Gendron" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Say it ain't so... > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/ee5c73b34e8b784d> > > > Larry Rupp <[email protected]> Dec 05 03:41PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Sounds like A-Gon wanted a long-term contract and we all know Theo > doesn't do those well... Crap! > > Sent from Larry's mobile device > > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/ca4193244cce41d8> > > > Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> Dec 05 02:44PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Frickin ay. (Is that spelled correctly?) Are they running a > small-market team > here or what? Jayson Freaking Werth just got 7 years $126m from > Washington. Pay > the @#$%&! money. > > -- Matt > > > > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/c00e4ba2b39243e0> > > > Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> Dec 05 05:59PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Did they really? That's freaking nuts. > > Doesn't help the Sox bargaining position on Gonzalez though. He's > younger > and twice the player Werth is. Carl Crawford has to be doing backflips. > > Steve O > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/79306602d2b4d928> > > > Tom Salemi <[email protected]> Dec 05 06:12PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I still think it will happen. > > On Dec 5, 2010 6:00 PM, "Steve Ouellette" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Did they really? That's freaking nuts. > > Doesn't help the Sox bargaining position on > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/12de566480f5178a> > > > Steve Ouellette <[email protected]> Dec 05 06:18PM -0500 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > I agree completely. No one else has the prospects the Padres want, they > really can't afford to keep Gonzalez, and who else is going to bid -- > knowing that even the Red Sox are balking at his > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/8969b7b8ca091467> > > > Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> Dec 05 04:41PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > But in the meantime, what do the Sox do?? If they sign Beltre, that > would > preclude them bringing in Gonzalez. And if I am Beltre, I'm asking > for bigger bucks now than I would have before. > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/f5c1f93c29168264> > > > Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> Dec 05 04:46PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > Just saw on Twitter that A-Gon is apparently still in Boston tonight, > in case > something gets done. I guess the deadline is just > a 'suggestion' by MLB....! > > Dan D > Central NJ USA > > > > > > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/f821ecb74377b05e> > > > Matt & Olga McSorley <[email protected]> Dec 05 04:53PM -0800 > ^<https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&view=js&name=main,tlist&ver=-DBvsvij1I8.en.&am=!oXpv9ObCv3exhZ4ijtQ2BHKYeobpHzLiASQKJt1s4Bokdscs32z1dA&fri#12cba210e11cbf58_digest_top> > > The issue isn't so much the trade but Gonzalez' willingness to agree to > a deal. > He has no incentive to take anything less than what he's asking for, > especially > in light of the Werth deal. > more...<http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens/msg/7e250104aa71283b> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<redsoxcitizens%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > -- Paul Carignan Transition Specialist Spurwink, Brunswick SS 675 Old Portland Road Brunswick, Maine 04011 207-725-9117 extension 44 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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