You take that back! On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
> A marginally smaller payroll.....let's not pretend this is Minnesota. We are > the Yankees. > > On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Larry Rupp <[email protected]> wrote: > Perhaps all those years of looking up at the Yankees payroll has jaded me. > Although I'm a fan of winning, there is also a part of me that can appreciate > that with a smaller payroll we've contended in the AL East. The balance is > where the real game is played - high enough to compete and get into October > where it's less about payroll and more about who wants it more and is > streaking vs. too low that you can't make it into postseason. > > Sent from Larry's mobile device > > On Jun 4, 2011, at 12:25 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: > >> My point is that the only measure of success in MLB is winning or losing. >> If the Sox do not win, I take no solace in the fact that their ledger is >> well balanced. >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi >> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 12:43 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Dice-K >> >> >> >> How is losing the World Series a wise use of money? >> >> On Jun 3, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So, as a fan, you would be happier if the Sox lost the World Series , but >> had a lower payroll? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ray Salemi >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 8:15 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Dice-K >> >> >> >> I consider the wise use of money to be part of the skill of the MLB game. >> So, just as I criticized idiocy in Lugo, I complain about money wasted on >> DiceK >> >> . >> >> >> On Jun 3, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Steve Gendron <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> It is hard to argue that $20M per year (including the $50M fee) is a fair >> price for any player. The money in baseball is just stupid. However, it >> was about the going rate for an experienced pitcher with his credentials at >> 26 years of age. Most pitchers have their best years ahead of them at that >> age. It was a calculated risk that didn’t work out as well as the team had >> hoped. >> >> >> >> Furthermore, Dice K was not terrible. 2007 was pretty good, and it >> culminated with a game 7 win over the Indians in the ALCS, and a game 3 win >> over the Rockies in the WS. 2008 was outstanding. At that point, I think >> we would have all agreed that it was worth the investment to bring Dice to >> the Sox. At 28 years old, who would have predicted it would be all downhill >> from there. >> >> >> >> And I revert to my usual position. It is not up to the fans to worry about >> player salaries. The Red Sox are underpaying some players and overpaying >> others. It all comes out in the wash. The franchise is a HUGE moneymaker. >> John Henry makes a fortune whether he pays Dice-K $20M or $200K. Why do we >> care how much additional profit he makes on the team? Bring me the best >> players and bring me championships and I will continue buying the tickets, >> hot dogs, beers, shirts, hats, and season subscriptions to NESN. It is a >> win-win. >> >> >> >> I am sad to see the Dice-K era come to an end. I was always hopeful he >> would turn it around and fulfill his promise. >> >> >> >> Steve >> >> >> >> >> >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase >> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 6:47 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Dice-K >> >> >> >> Larry, actually, 2011 was his last year signed with the Sox, so he's >> effectively done. >> >> It seemed like a lot of money for ANY pitcher at the time, and very few >> 'experts' sounded a note of caution. And he was an excellent >> pitcher in Japan, but it just didn't seem like his skills translated here. >> Too many pitches, too much of a 'backwards' pitcher, too stubborn >> to use his fastball, too disinclined to get into shape. Ah well, it only >> cost the Sox money, at least we didn't have to send any prospects >> away for him (although would they have been more reluctant to sent Casey >> Kelly to SD in the Gonzalez deal if we didn't have Dice-K?). >> >> >> >> Dan D >> Central NJ USA >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Larry Rupp <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 8:36:14 PM >> Subject: Re: Dice-K >> >> The lack of traffic on this topic has me believe either our group is all on >> a long Memorial Day holiday or just doesn't care anymore for dice - either >> way it would appear we no longer have to worry about him on the roster this >> season however didn't we lock him up for 6 years - 2 good years, 2 bad >> years, this season and next year? The pitching market is not looking good >> this year - Yankees are already looking and have come up empty thus far and >> will drive prices high for the limited pitchers potentially on the market. >> Settle in for some knuckleballs - and Salty having more passballs... >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Dan DiBiase <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Looks like he will be getting Tommy John-san surgery, effectively ending his >> time with the Sox. >> >> http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2011/06/as_daisuke_mats.html >> >> >> >> Dan D >> Central NJ USA >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Red Sox Citizens" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Red Sox Citizens" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/redsoxcitizens?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Red Sox Citizens" group. 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