2 daylight PCs (or VHO) and one NO actinic would be perfect. I would go that route. You will spend a lot of money in replacement bulbs for the LOAs, so in the long run, they wont be much cheaper. Plus the PCs will be much cleaner and easier to install.
IMO, Shane C. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 10:21 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices..... > > Plan "B" > > If the skimmer Idea will not work, I will put a T and a ball valve to > divide the water that is comming to the tank to feed the refugium. I think > is a better Idea as I can see with your recommendations Shane. > Talking about "LOA fixtures" supose you have 3 13 watts PC�s in only one > socket. As I mentioned, they are 50 watts and 6500k. Beutifull light. the > advantages of them, > -I can get it here in Mexico. > -They have the correct k rate to light a reef tank. > > Disadvantages, > -They will cost me the same as 55 watts PC bulb. > -Their size is about 6" large > -The duration of this bulbs, I think is the same as Normal Output > Fluorescent bulb (6 months) > > So, I think is a very good Idea about 2 VHO, maybe 3. Does that apply to > PC bulbs? I know the PC are not true actinic, so, maybe I can go 2 > daylight PC bulbs and 1 NO actinic. > > What do you think?? > > Reef Man > ICQ # 21731316 > www.crystal-oceans.com > ((�>`�.��.���`�.. ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�><((((�> > ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�.���`�...�><((((�>��.���`�.�. > `�.. ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�><((((�>��.���`�.�. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Shane Clays [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:06 PM > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices..... > > > Jose, > > You do not need MHs for LPS and softies. As a matter of fact, that would > be > way too much, and would probably do more damage than good, trust me on > that > one. It sounds like your tank is a 50 gallon. If thats the case, you could > run a couple of 36 inch VHOs, giving you 3.84 watts per gallon, which is > enough for LPS and most softies. That would be a cheap, efficient way to > light your tank. If you decided you needed more light down the road, you > could add a 3rd, but I really think 2 VHOs would be enough.You could do > some > nice LPS and softies on the upper 2/3rds of the tank, then do some nice > polyps and mushrooms on the bottom 3rd. Thatd be a nice way to go. > > What are LOA fixtures? You say they are 65k, and that would work well with > an actinic or two. That may be a good way to go if you can wire them up > safely. Also, how hot do they get? > > Only feed back for you on the skimmer to the refugium is that if your > skimmer is really cleaning the water, your caluerpa may not get enough > nutrients to grow. They need organics to survive, and you may literally > starve them to death if you run your skimmer outlet into the refugium. > This > may not happen either, but is a possibilty. You could try it and see how > it > works, but make sure to have a plan B if you see the caluerpa is not > growing. > > IMO > Shane C. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:54 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices..... > > > > Thanks Shane ! > > Regarding the flow on the refugium, I am thinking to direct the outlets > of > > my skimmer (Red Sea Berlin classic) to it, and put a some kind of > overflow > > to return the water to my sump. Maybe that can be enough flow??? > > The "LOA" fixtures that can we get down here (Mexico city) comes in 50 > > watts presentation and 6500k.I think this is a good source of lighting > for > > my refugium. > > > > And you are right, I forgot to mention what kind of animals will I have, > I > > will keep softies, LPS, and maybe clams, that I can skip. I am looking > for > > the cheapest way to go, BTW, I was seriuosly thinking on put 3 of the > "LOA > > fixtures" available in Mexico to the Main tank, maybe with an actinic > > fluorescent bulb. > > > > Suggestions and Recommendations are very welcome !!!!!! > > > > TIA. > > > > > > Reef Man > > ICQ # 21731316 > > www.crystal-oceans.com > > ((�>`�.��.���`�.. ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�><((((�> > > ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�.���`�...�><((((�>��.���`�.�. > > `�.. ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�><((((�>��.���`�.�. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Shane Clays [ < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>] > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 11:42 AM > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices..... > > > > > > You refugium does not need a ton of flow going through it, but you will > > need > > a powerhead or two in it to keep the water moving around the refugium > > itself. My refugium has a large flow rate, but that is beacuse it is > full > > of > > LR. I still have a powerhead blowing current under the LR, just to keep > > dead > > space from happening. For lighting, just aim for 3-5 watts per gallon. > If > > you can get 50-60 watts above it, you are golden. A brighter light > source > > will help the caluerpa grow faster, less light, slower growth. > > > > For you lighting, what types of corals are you going to keep? > > > > Shane > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:38 AM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices..... > > > > > > Hi !! > > > > > > I am planning a Tank upgrade and I need some ideas and advices. > > > > > > I will put a small refugium like a 10 gallons tank at one side of the > > > sump. Question: > > > > > > how much flow do I need there? > > > Can I use a single LOA fixture to illuminate it?? > > > > > > Now, the tank will be 40"long, 16 wide and 20" tall. > > > > > > Can I illuminate the tank with a single 250 watts Iwasaki? > > > > > > Can I get better illumination with a pair of 175 MH bulbs? or 150 HQI > > > bulbs?? or maybe a pair of 150 watts Iwasaki? > > > > > > Thanks in advance for your help and recommendations !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Reef Man > > > ICQ # 21731316 > > > www.crystal-oceans.com > > > ((�>`�.��.���`�.. ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�><((((�> > > > ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�.���`�...�><((((�>��.���`�.�. > > > `�.. ><((((�>`�.��.���`�.�><((((�>��.���`�.�. > > > > > > > > ________________________________________ > > > > LEAVING THE LIST > > ===============To stop receiving messages you will need to send a > message > > to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a command to remove you from > the > > list. 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