Reef Man
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
October 01, 2001 12:23 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
2 daylight PCs (or
VHO) and one NO actinic would be perfect. I would go that
route. You will
spend a lot of money in replacement bulbs for the LOAs, so
in the long run,
they wont be much cheaper. Plus the PCs will be much
cleaner and easier to
install.
IMO,
Shane C.
> -----Original Message-----
>
From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 10:21 AM
> To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
>
> Plan
"B"
>
> If the skimmer Idea will not work, I will put a T and a ball
valve to
> divide the water that is comming to the tank to feed the
refugium. I think
> is a better Idea as I can see with your
recommendations Shane.
> Talking about "LOA fixtures" supose you have 3 13
watts PC�s in only one
> socket. As I mentioned, they are 50 watts and
6500k. Beutifull light. the
> advantages of them,
> -I can get it
here in Mexico.
> -They have the correct k rate to light a reef
tank.
>
> Disadvantages,
> -They will cost me the same as 55
watts PC bulb.
> -Their size is about 6" large
> -The duration of
this bulbs, I think is the same as Normal Output
> Fluorescent bulb (6
months)
>
> So, I think is a very good Idea about 2 VHO, maybe 3.
Does that apply to
> PC bulbs? I know the PC are not true actinic, so,
maybe I can go 2
> daylight PC bulbs and 1 NO actinic.
>
>
What do you think??
>
> Reef Man
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-----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Clays [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 12:06 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>
Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
>
>
> Jose,
>
> You do not need MHs
for LPS and softies. As a matter of fact, that would
> be
> way too
much, and would probably do more damage than good, trust me on
>
that
> one. It sounds like your tank is a 50 gallon. If thats the case,
you could
> run a couple of 36 inch VHOs, giving you 3.84 watts per
gallon, which is
> enough for LPS and most softies. That would be a cheap,
efficient way to
> light your tank. If you decided you needed more light
down the road, you
> could add a 3rd, but I really think 2 VHOs would be
enough.You could do
> some
> nice LPS and softies on the upper
2/3rds of the tank, then do some nice
> polyps and mushrooms on the bottom
3rd. Thatd be a nice way to go.
>
> What are LOA fixtures? You say
they are 65k, and that would work well with
> an actinic or two. That may
be a good way to go if you can wire them up
> safely. Also, how hot do
they get?
>
> Only feed back for you on the skimmer to the refugium
is that if your
> skimmer is really cleaning the water, your caluerpa may
not get enough
> nutrients to grow. They need organics to survive, and you
may literally
> starve them to death if you run your skimmer outlet into
the refugium.
> This
> may not happen either, but is a possibilty.
You could try it and see how
> it
> works, but make sure to have a
plan B if you see the caluerpa is not
> growing.
>
>
IMO
> Shane C.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 9:54 AM
> > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
> >
> > Thanks
Shane !
> > Regarding the flow on the refugium, I am thinking to direct
the outlets
> of
> > my skimmer (Red Sea Berlin classic) to it,
and put a some kind of
> overflow
> > to return the water to my
sump. Maybe that can be enough flow???
> > The "LOA" fixtures that can
we get down here (Mexico city) comes in 50
> > watts presentation and
6500k.I think this is a good source of lighting
> for
> > my
refugium.
> >
> > And you are right, I forgot to mention what
kind of animals will I have,
> I
> > will keep softies, LPS, and
maybe clams, that I can skip. I am looking
> for
> > the cheapest
way to go, BTW, I was seriuosly thinking on put 3 of the
> "LOA
>
> fixtures" available in Mexico to the Main tank, maybe with an
actinic
> > fluorescent bulb.
> >
> > Suggestions and
Recommendations are very welcome !!!!!!
> >
> > TIA.
>
>
> >
> > Reef Man
> > ICQ # 21731316
> >
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
Shane Clays [ < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>]
> >
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 11:42 AM
> > To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need
some advices.....
> >
> >
> > You refugium does not
need a ton of flow going through it, but you will
> > need
> >
a powerhead or two in it to keep the water moving around the refugium
>
> itself. My refugium has a large flow rate, but that is beacuse it
is
> full
> > of
> > LR. I still have a powerhead
blowing current under the LR, just to keep
> > dead
> > space
from happening. For lighting, just aim for 3-5 watts per gallon.
>
If
> > you can get 50-60 watts above it, you are golden. A brighter
light
> source
> > will help the caluerpa grow faster, less
light, slower growth.
> >
> > For you lighting, what types of
corals are you going to keep?
> >
> > Shane
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jose
Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 9:38 AM
> > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
> > >
> >
> Hi !!
> > >
> > > I am planning a Tank upgrade and
I need some ideas and advices.
> > >
> > > I will put a
small refugium like a 10 gallons tank at one side of the
> > > sump.
Question:
> > >
> > > how much flow do I need
there?
> > > Can I use a single LOA fixture to illuminate
it??
> > >
> > > Now, the tank will be 40"long, 16 wide
and 20" tall.
> > >
> > > Can I illuminate the tank with
a single 250 watts Iwasaki?
> > >
> > > Can I get better
illumination with a pair of 175 MH bulbs? or 150 HQI
> > > bulbs??
or maybe a pair of 150 watts Iwasaki?
> > >
> > > Thanks
in advance for your help and recommendations !!!
> > >
> >
>
> > >
> > > Reef Man
> > > ICQ #
21731316
> > > www.crystal-oceans.com
> > >
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