Reef Man
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-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Clays [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
October 01, 2001 12:42 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
My MHs are 5k. They
work well. You will want the actinic for sure though. If
you go LPS and
softies, with a healthy growth of caluerpa and doing your
water changes
religously, you should be able to get away without a skimmer.
You will want
to watch your nitrate levels, but I think you will be okay
without one. I ran
a 20 gallon mico reef for a year without a skimmer, but I
changed 10 gallons
of water weekly.
Shane
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>
From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 10:38 AM
> To:
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> Subject: RE:
Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
>
> Thanks Shane
!
> i have two more questions:
>
> I can get very cheap
55 watts PC�s bulbs, but they are 5000k only. Can be
> used in a reef
aquarium?
> If I go with a refugium, Do I still need a skimmer on the
system?
>
> TIA.
>
> Reef Man
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-----Original Message-----
> From: Shane Clays [ <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
> Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 12:23 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>
Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
>
>
> 2 daylight PCs (or VHO) and one NO actinic
would be perfect. I would go
> that
> route. You will spend a lot of
money in replacement bulbs for the LOAs, so
> in the long run, they wont
be much cheaper. Plus the PCs will be much
> cleaner and easier to
install.
>
> IMO,
> Shane C.
>
> >
-----Original Message-----
> > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001
10:21 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
> >
> > Plan "B"
> >
> > If the
skimmer Idea will not work, I will put a T and a ball valve to
> >
divide the water that is comming to the tank to feed the refugium. I
>
think
> > is a better Idea as I can see with your recommendations
Shane.
> > Talking about "LOA fixtures" supose you have 3 13 watts PC�s
in only one
> > socket. As I mentioned, they are 50 watts and 6500k.
Beutifull light.
> the
> > advantages of them,
> > -I
can get it here in Mexico.
> > -They have the correct k rate to light a
reef tank.
> >
> > Disadvantages,
> > -They will cost
me the same as 55 watts PC bulb.
> > -Their size is about 6"
large
> > -The duration of this bulbs, I think is the same as Normal
Output
> > Fluorescent bulb (6 months)
> >
> > So, I
think is a very good Idea about 2 VHO, maybe 3. Does that apply to
> >
PC bulbs? I know the PC are not true actinic, so, maybe I can go 2
> >
daylight PC bulbs and 1 NO actinic.
> >
> > What do you
think??
> >
> > Reef Man
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-----Original Message-----
> > From: Shane Clays [ < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>]
> >
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 12:06 PM
> > To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need
some advices.....
> >
> >
> > Jose,
>
>
> > You do not need MHs for LPS and softies. As a matter of fact,
that would
> > be
> > way too much, and would probably do more
damage than good, trust me on
> > that
> > one. It sounds like
your tank is a 50 gallon. If thats the case, you
> could
> > run
a couple of 36 inch VHOs, giving you 3.84 watts per gallon, which is
>
> enough for LPS and most softies. That would be a cheap, efficient way
to
> > light your tank. If you decided you needed more light down the
road, you
> > could add a 3rd, but I really think 2 VHOs would be
enough.You could do
> > some
> > nice LPS and softies on the
upper 2/3rds of the tank, then do some nice
> > polyps and mushrooms on
the bottom 3rd. Thatd be a nice way to go.
> >
> > What are
LOA fixtures? You say they are 65k, and that would work well
>
with
> > an actinic or two. That may be a good way to go if you can
wire them up
> > safely. Also, how hot do they get?
>
>
> > Only feed back for you on the skimmer to the refugium is that
if your
> > skimmer is really cleaning the water, your caluerpa may not
get enough
> > nutrients to grow. They need organics to survive, and
you may literally
> > starve them to death if you run your skimmer
outlet into the refugium.
> > This
> > may not happen either,
but is a possibilty. You could try it and see how
> > it
> >
works, but make sure to have a plan B if you see the caluerpa is not
>
> growing.
> >
> > IMO
> > Shane C.
>
>
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jose
Arturo Perez Vera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent:
Monday, October 01, 2001 9:54 AM
> > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject:
RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some advices.....
> > >
>
> > Thanks Shane !
> > > Regarding the flow on the refugium, I
am thinking to direct the
> outlets
> > of
> > > my
skimmer (Red Sea Berlin classic) to it, and put a some kind of
> >
overflow
> > > to return the water to my sump. Maybe that can be
enough flow???
> > > The "LOA" fixtures that can we get down here
(Mexico city) comes in 50
> > > watts presentation and 6500k.I think
this is a good source of lighting
> > for
> > > my
refugium.
> > >
> > > And you are right, I forgot to
mention what kind of animals will I
> have,
> > I
> >
> will keep softies, LPS, and maybe clams, that I can skip. I am
looking
> > for
> > > the cheapest way to go, BTW, I was
seriuosly thinking on put 3 of the
> > "LOA
> > > fixtures"
available in Mexico to the Main tank, maybe with an actinic
> > >
fluorescent bulb.
> > >
> > > Suggestions and
Recommendations are very welcome !!!!!!
> > >
> > >
TIA.
> > >
> > >
> > > Reef Man
> >
> ICQ # 21731316
> > > www.crystal-oceans.com
> > >
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> > > -----Original Message-----
> >
> From: Shane Clays [ < < <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>>]
>
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 11:42 AM
> > > To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: Planning Tank Upgrade. I
need some advices.....
> > >
> > >
> > > You
refugium does not need a ton of flow going through it, but you
>
will
> > > need
> > > a powerhead or two in it to keep
the water moving around the refugium
> > > itself. My refugium has a
large flow rate, but that is beacuse it is
> > full
> > >
of
> > > LR. I still have a powerhead blowing current under the LR,
just to
> keep
> > > dead
> > > space from
happening. For lighting, just aim for 3-5 watts per gallon.
> >
If
> > > you can get 50-60 watts above it, you are golden. A
brighter light
> > source
> > > will help the caluerpa grow
faster, less light, slower growth.
> > >
> > > For you
lighting, what types of corals are you going to keep?
> > >
>
> > Shane
> > >
> > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > From: Jose Arturo Perez Vera
[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 01,
2001 9:38 AM
> > > > To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >
Subject: Planning Tank Upgrade. I need some
advices.....
> > > >
> > > > Hi !!
> >
> >
> > > > I am planning a Tank upgrade and I need some
ideas and advices.
> > > >
> > > > I will put a
small refugium like a 10 gallons tank at one side of
> the
> >
> > sump. Question:
> > > >
> > > > how much
flow do I need there?
> > > > Can I use a single LOA fixture to
illuminate it??
> > > >
> > > > Now, the tank will
be 40"long, 16 wide and 20" tall.
> > > >
> > > >
Can I illuminate the tank with a single 250 watts Iwasaki?
> > >
>
> > > > Can I get better illumination with a pair of 175 MH
bulbs? or 150
> HQI
> > > > bulbs?? or maybe a pair of 150
watts Iwasaki?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks in advance
for your help and recommendations !!!
> > > >
> > >
>
> > > >
> > > > Reef Man
> > >
> ICQ # 21731316
> > > > www.crystal-oceans.com
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