Absolutely.  First, none of their account admin panel functions have  
worked for us forcing us to call their support every time we want to  
do anything - add database, change db user password, etc.  The other  
night I waited on hold for over an hour just to change a password!

I don't use SSH, but one of our developers said he couldn't use SSH  
access with the Mosso account.

It's been a real hassle all the way around.

Sent from my iPhone

On Apr 10, 2009, at 3:33 PM, Amy Gelfand <[email protected]>  
wrote:

> Terry - would you mind describing what happened? I'm considering  
> using Mosso/Rackspace, so I'd definitely like to know.
>
> Thanks,
> Amy
>
> Amy Gelfand, Design and Communications Professional
> Gelfand Design
> www.gelfanddesign.com
> "Computers are like Old Testament gods--lots of rules and no mercy."
>
>
> From: Terry Brown <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:44:08 PM
> Subject: [Refresh Austin: 3806] Re: Hosting clients' sites? WAS:  
> Advice for handling billing for new client site
>
> I have - RECENTLY - MOSSO SUCKS!!  Don't use them!!
>
>
>
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected] 
> ] On Behalf Of Amy Gelfand
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 9:29 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Refresh Austin: 3801] Re: Hosting clients' sites? WAS:  
> Advice for handling billing for new client site
>
>
>
> Has anyone used Rackspace Cloud Sites?
>
>
>
> Amy Gelfand, Design and Communications Professional
> Gelfand Design
> www.gelfanddesign.com
> "Computers are like Old Testament gods--lots of rules and no mercy."
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Philip (flip) Kromer <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Friday, April 10, 2009 2:55:14 AM
> Subject: [Refresh Austin: 3800] Re: Hosting clients' sites? WAS:  
> Advice for handling billing for new client site
>
> Just a couple other resources to throw in the ring.
>
>
>
> * A reasonable-cost middle ground between shared hosting and colo is  
> to use a virtualized server. We use http://slicehost.com and love  
> it. You get effectively your own machine, you control all the  
> software (and are thus responsible for it), bandwidth allowance is  
> reasonable, responsive support, they provide backup at modest cost,  
> etc.
>
>
>
> * At the other end: though I haven't used them, I have multiple  
> positive recommendations for Nearly Free Speech hosting 
> (https://www.nearlyfreespeech.net/ 
> ). It's transparent pricing based on exactly what you use. This  
> might be a good match for your client.
>
>
>
> Also +1 to using Google Apps for any client. If it's a new domain  
> register it through the Google apps setup and choose the eNom option  
> -- it's clean and will come configured right. Setup is fast enough  
> that you can do it with your laptop at their offices (letting them  
> key in the credit card and admin google account)
>
>
>
> I don't trust GoDaddy -- not so much that they'd fail to act as  
> promised, but I've worked with people who were fooled into buying  
> multi-year email plans with 10 50M inboxes for >$100/yr from them,  
> etc.  Their website is so horrid and shouty and hell-bent on scaring  
> your customer into an unnecessary upsell. I'm happy with Joker.com,  
> but I'm sure a registrar with a nicer interface exists.
>
>
>
> flip
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Jeff Bernier  
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> Amy,
>
> I'll throw my 2 cents into the ring. I started out 5 years ago using  
> 3rd
> party hosting solutions but left them when they kept modifying the
> environment. It got so bad that I had a client accusing my of  
> sabotaging
> their website when what was happening was the hosting company was
> modifying their email policies and causing emails to not be sent from
> the website. However the hosting company would not admit that they had
> done that so the client assumed that I had gone in and modified the  
> code
> which of course I'd never do.
>
> So I now have a server with Midas Networks here in town. They set the
> server up for me and taught me what I needed to know to do the  
> majority
> of the website setup. When I need work done on the server I can have
> them do the work, upgrades and the like, for a fee. I then provide
> hosting in a known environment to my clients and I know that nothing  
> is
> going to be changed without my knowledge.
>
> In addition since I provide that service I register domain names and
> manage them for most of my clients. Typically reduces many headaches  
> for
> me since I know that the registry settings are correct at that point.
> Also if Midas Networks were to have to make changes to the
> infrastructure I have the ability to make changes the the domains
> without having to contact each client and wait for a response from  
> them.
>
> Yes, providing hosting does have it's headaches, but it's been my
> experience that the headaches from outside hosting services are  
> greater.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> Amy Gelfand wrote:
> > Ryan, your comment just prompted me to ask a question that's been on
> > my mind for a while? For those of you who build Web sites for  
> clients,
> > do you provide hosting for their sites, or do you set them up with
> > their own account at the hosting company of their choice? I've been
> > asked by potential clients if I host sites. I'm not sure if it's
> > something I should look into. Thoughts?
> >
> > Amy Gelfand, Design and Communications Professional
> > Gelfand Design
>
> > www.gelfanddesign.com <http://www.gelfanddesign.com>
>
> > "Computers are like Old Testament gods--lots of rules and no mercy."
> >
> >
> >  
> --- 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> > *From:* Ryan Joy <[email protected]>
> > *To:* [email protected]
> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 9, 2009 5:48:53 PM
> > *Subject:* [Refresh Austin : 3789] Re: Advice for handling billing  
> for
> > new client site
> >
> >
> > I would certainly recommend having the client get their own domain
> > name and hosting set up. I speak from experience. I currently have a
> > circa 2001 pro-bono website that I'm still administering their  
> domain
> > and hosting. Trust me, educate and start 'em off right.
> >
> > - RYAN JOY
> >   http://twitter.com/atxryan
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Mark Phillip <[email protected]
>
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > Hey folks, I volunteered to do some pro-bono work for a bird
> > sanctuary here
> > > in town.  It'll be a simple WP install, heavy on pages and light  
> on
> > posts.
> > >
> > > I'm struggling with what the best way to set up payment is.  I  
> don't
> > feel
> > > comfortable asking for the client's credit card number, and I'd
> > rather not
> > > pay for it myself and deal with continually asking to be  
> reimbursed.
> > >
> > > Is there a way to kick this off that I'm not thinking of?  Or is  
> my
> > best bet
> > > just sending the client to GoDaddy (bleh) to set everything up  
> and just
> > > having her send me the login credentials?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark
> > > http://markphillip.com
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> http://www.infochimps.org
> Connected Open Free Data
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >

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