Thanks for the link. I will definitely get acquainted with the information presented there. I remember the nightmares I used to have developing emails for the plethora of email clients. Tough ones like Lotus Notes were my fave! Especially since the only way we could test was to send it to our client and ask them to send back screenshots. ;)
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Art Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > One thing I should have mentioned in my earlier post is that the more > established companies (ie: those who send out millions of emails a day) tend > to have a positive reputation with the Postini/Bayesian/SpamAssasins of the > world where a self-hosted solution may not. All mail servers use some form > of email filtering and greylists are very common these days. If you do go > with a self-hosted solution, I recommend being very diligent in avoiding any > SPAM-like characteristics of your emails since they will be originating from > an unqualified server address. > > Also, I hope everyone in this thread is familiar with and supportive of the > Email Standards Project (www.email-standards.org). Their "State of the > clients" list is just about the only reliable means of determining how to > design and code for the broadest of email client compatibility, which is > depressingly low at the moment. For example: Gmail and Outlook, arguably the > two most widely used email clients, both rank "poor" in terms of the most > basic CSS support. > > Cheers, > > Art Thompson, Jr. > Logical Things - Web, Design & Marketing Solutions > > 917-609-1158 [m] > 512-692-9865 [w] > www.logicalthings.com > linkedin.com/in/logicalthings > twitter.com/logicalthings > > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I don't have a need for email marketing myself. Though most every client I >> work with uses some system for Newsletters/Email Marketing system which >> collects signup and some regular email blast. Most use either Constant >> Contact or Mail Build/Campaign Monitor. Both of these systems are tops. The >> problem I have overall is the pricing doesn't scale well when you have many >> thousands of registrations. >> >> One system I've started suggesting is a self-hosted system call Send >> Studio. This has a very nice design interface. You purchase a license to >> download and host the software yourself. And Send Studio was recently >> acquired by Interspire. http://www.interspire.com/emailmarketer/ >> >> P- >> >> >> On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Art Thompson wrote: >> >> Hi Keith, >> >> The ones I've used all seem to have similar list management features, >> dealing with and reporting bounces, opt-outs, opt-ins, forwards, etc.. I >> have a code snippet for an email sign-up form for Constant Contact. I'm sure >> the others provide the same. Good luck with the final decision. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Art Thompson, Jr. >> Logical Things - Design + Technology >> 917-609-1158 [m] >> 512-692-9865 [w] >> www.logicalthings.com >> linkedin.com/in/logicalthings >> twitter.com/logicalthings >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Keith Aric Hall <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Thanks Art, all very good points. I am an experienced graphic >>> designer/web developer. In fact, I used to build email campaigns and >>> associated microsites in a previous job. But, I need a balance as some less >>> skilled people will basically be building campaigns from the templates I >>> generate. With this in mind, Mail Chimp and Emma seem promising. >>> >>> Whichever service I choose has to handle subscriptions and contacts, >>> which I assume most of the recommended services do. >>> >>> kah >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Art Thompson >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> I'm a long-time Constant Contact user. However, I would ask what your >>>> skill level is in terms of designing and/or coding your emails, >>>> newsletters, >>>> etc. For me, Constant Contact made the most sense from a usability and >>>> price >>>> standpoint because I design and code everything myself as opposed to using >>>> their wizard or templates and I also host my own images. A service like >>>> Emma >>>> seems better for folks who are more business/marketing than technical. >>>> Stats >>>> seem pretty consistent across most of the top dogs in the field, though I >>>> recently sat through a presentation by the new Austin Emma reps and was >>>> pretty impressed by their reporting. They have a different pricing model >>>> than CC does though it may be a wash depending on your needs. >>>> >>>> Art Thompson, Jr. >>>> Logical Things - Design + Technology >>>> 917-609-1158 [m] >>>> 512-692-9865 [w] >>>> www.logicalthings.com >>>> linkedin.com/in/logicalthings >>>> twitter.com/logicalthings >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Felipe Recalde <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> *raises hand* mailchimp! I love the pricing, social media integration, >>>>> and great analytic reports.. >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Felipe Recalde >>>>> >>>>> OFFICE (956) 943-3622 >>>>> FAX (956) 943-2070 >>>>> >>>>> NO. 1 GOLF HOUSE RD. >>>>> LAGUNA VISTA, TX 78578 >>>>> WWW.SPIGOLF.COM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Chelsea Staires < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Survey Monkey <http://www.surveymonkey.com/> has worked well for us >>>>> for very simple, straightforward surveys. We use Exact Target now which >>>>> is >>>>> more of a platform. Constant Contact and Emma are good entry-level >>>>> choices. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Chelsea Staires >>>>> Senior Communications Manager >>>>> BuildASign.com >>>>> 512-685-6816 (o) >>>>> 512-685-6899 (f) >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> www.BuildASign.com >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dan Brown <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you're a developer looking to manage campaigns for clients, I would >>>>>> highly recommend Campaign Monitor (http://www.campaignmonitor.com). >>>>>> >>>>>> -db >>>>>> >>>>>> Robert Banh wrote: >>>>>> > I think mailchimp is right up there... >>>>>> > >>>>>> > http://www.mailchimp.com/ >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Warren Cardinal < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> > >>>>>> >> Emma looks interesting. And there is a new rep based in Austin >>>>>> that would >>>>>> >> probably give some one-on-one support. www.myemma.com >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Warren >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Diana Montalion Dupuis >>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >>> Vertical Response. They are, I think, CC's closest competitor. >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Diana >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>> Keith Aric Hall wrote: >>>>>> >>> >>>>>> >>>> I am looking at different email marketing services I thought I >>>>>> would >>>>>> >>>> ask what the crowd thinks. I know Constant Contact is popular, >>>>>> but are >>>>>> >>>> there other recommendations? 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