Felipe,

Good call. Now that you mention it, I do recall seeing that in the short
demo video on the mailchimp site.

kah

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Felipe Recalde <[email protected]> wrote:

> Mailchimp offers 'Inbox Inspector' which is like browsershots.org for
> email clients.   Read about it at
> http://www.mailchimp.com/features/power_features/inbox_inspector/
>
> I sound like a mailchimp commercial. I'm a fan and am not affiliated with
> them.  Fanatic clients are the best form of advertising.
>
>
>
> Felipe Recalde
>
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>
>
> On Nov 12, 2009, at 3:24 PM, Art Thompson wrote:
>
> Yeah, and then you get one client using Notes on a Mac. Holy mother!
> There's yet to exist a BrowserShots.org for email clients, though I'm not
> going to hold my breath...
>
> Art Thompson, Jr.
> Logical Things - Web, Design & Marketing Solutions
> 917-609-1158 [m]
> 512-692-9865 [w]
> www.logicalthings.com
> linkedin.com/in/logicalthings
> twitter.com/logicalthings
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:13 PM, Keith Aric Hall <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the link. I will definitely get acquainted with the information
>> presented there. I remember the nightmares I used to have developing emails
>> for the plethora of email clients. Tough ones like Lotus Notes were my fave!
>> Especially since the only way we could test was to send it to our client and
>> ask them to send back screenshots. ;)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 2:39 PM, Art Thompson <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> One thing I should have mentioned in my earlier post is that the more
>>> established companies (ie: those who send out millions of emails a day) tend
>>> to have a positive reputation with the Postini/Bayesian/SpamAssasins of the
>>> world where a self-hosted solution may not. All mail servers use some form
>>> of email filtering and greylists are very common these days. If you do go
>>> with a self-hosted solution, I recommend being very diligent in avoiding any
>>> SPAM-like characteristics of your emails since they will be originating from
>>> an unqualified server address.
>>>
>>> Also, I hope everyone in this thread is familiar with and supportive of
>>> the Email Standards Project (www.email-standards.org). Their "State of
>>> the clients" list is just about the only reliable means of determining how
>>> to design and code for the broadest of email client compatibility, which is
>>> depressingly low at the moment. For example: Gmail and Outlook, arguably the
>>> two most widely used email clients, both rank "poor" in terms of the most
>>> basic CSS support.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Art Thompson, Jr.
>>> Logical Things - Web, Design & Marketing Solutions
>>>
>>> 917-609-1158 [m]
>>> 512-692-9865 [w]
>>> www.logicalthings.com
>>> linkedin.com/in/logicalthings
>>> twitter.com/logicalthings
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Paul <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a need for email marketing myself. Though most every client
>>>> I work with uses some system for Newsletters/Email Marketing system which
>>>> collects signup and some regular email blast. Most use either Constant
>>>> Contact or Mail Build/Campaign Monitor. Both of these systems are tops. The
>>>> problem I have overall is the pricing doesn't scale well when you have many
>>>> thousands of registrations.
>>>>
>>>> One system I've started suggesting is a self-hosted system call Send
>>>> Studio. This has a very nice design interface. You purchase a license to
>>>> download and host the software yourself. And Send Studio was recently
>>>> acquired by Interspire. http://www.interspire.com/emailmarketer/
>>>>
>>>> P-
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2009, at 12:28 AM, Art Thompson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Keith,
>>>>
>>>> The ones I've used all seem to have similar list management features,
>>>> dealing with and reporting bounces, opt-outs, opt-ins, forwards, etc.. I
>>>> have a code snippet for an email sign-up form for Constant Contact. I'm 
>>>> sure
>>>> the others provide the same. Good luck with the final decision.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Art Thompson, Jr.
>>>> Logical Things - Design + Technology
>>>> 917-609-1158 [m]
>>>> 512-692-9865 [w]
>>>> www.logicalthings.com
>>>> linkedin.com/in/logicalthings
>>>> twitter.com/logicalthings
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Keith Aric Hall 
>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Art, all very good points. I am an experienced graphic
>>>>> designer/web developer. In fact, I used to build email campaigns and
>>>>> associated microsites in a previous job. But, I need a balance as some 
>>>>> less
>>>>> skilled people will basically be building campaigns from the templates I
>>>>> generate. With this in mind, Mail Chimp and Emma seem promising.
>>>>>
>>>>> Whichever service I choose has to handle subscriptions and contacts,
>>>>> which I assume most of the recommended services do.
>>>>>
>>>>> kah
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Art Thompson 
>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm a long-time Constant Contact user. However, I would ask what your
>>>>>> skill level is in terms of designing and/or coding your emails, 
>>>>>> newsletters,
>>>>>> etc. For me, Constant Contact made the most sense from a usability and 
>>>>>> price
>>>>>> standpoint because I design and code everything myself as opposed to 
>>>>>> using
>>>>>> their wizard or templates and I also host my own images. A service like 
>>>>>> Emma
>>>>>> seems better for folks who are more business/marketing than technical. 
>>>>>> Stats
>>>>>> seem pretty consistent across most of the top dogs in the field, though I
>>>>>> recently sat through a presentation by the new Austin Emma reps and was
>>>>>> pretty impressed by their reporting. They have a different pricing model
>>>>>> than CC does though it may be a wash depending on your needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art Thompson, Jr.
>>>>>> Logical Things - Design + Technology
>>>>>> 917-609-1158 [m]
>>>>>> 512-692-9865 [w]
>>>>>> www.logicalthings.com
>>>>>> linkedin.com/in/logicalthings
>>>>>> twitter.com/logicalthings
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 10:23 PM, Felipe Recalde 
>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *raises hand* mailchimp!  I love the pricing, social media
>>>>>>> integration, and great analytic reports..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Felipe Recalde
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OFFICE (956) 943-3622
>>>>>>> FAX (956) 943-2070
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NO. 1 GOLF HOUSE RD.
>>>>>>> LAGUNA VISTA, TX 78578
>>>>>>> WWW.SPIGOLF.COM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 11, 2009, at 5:02 PM, Chelsea Staires <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Survey Monkey <http://www.surveymonkey.com/> has worked well for us
>>>>>>> for very simple, straightforward surveys.  We use Exact Target now 
>>>>>>> which is
>>>>>>> more of a platform.  Constant Contact and Emma are good entry-level 
>>>>>>> choices.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Chelsea Staires
>>>>>>> Senior Communications Manager
>>>>>>> BuildASign.com
>>>>>>> 512-685-6816 (o)
>>>>>>> 512-685-6899 (f)
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.BuildASign.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Dan Brown 
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you're a developer looking to manage campaigns for clients, I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> highly recommend Campaign Monitor (http://www.campaignmonitor.com).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -db
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Robert Banh wrote:
>>>>>>>> > I think mailchimp is right up there...
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > http://www.mailchimp.com/
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Warren Cardinal <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> Emma looks interesting.  And there is a new rep based in Austin
>>>>>>>> that would
>>>>>>>> >> probably give some one-on-one support.  www.myemma.com
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Warren
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Diana Montalion Dupuis
>>>>>>>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>> Vertical Response.  They are, I think, CC's closest competitor.
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Diana
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Keith Aric Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> I am looking at different email marketing services I thought I
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> >>>> ask what the crowd thinks. I know Constant Contact is popular,
>>>>>>>> but are
>>>>>>>> >>>> there other recommendations? I am looking mainly for email, but
>>>>>>>> >>>> survey's are a possibility too.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> --
>>>>>>>> >>>> Keith Aric Hall
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> http://www.keitharichall.com/
>>>>>>>> >>>> twitter: keitharichall
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Keith Aric Hall
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.keitharichall.com/
>>>>> twitter: keitharichall
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Keith Aric Hall
>>
>> http://www.keitharichall.com/
>> twitter: keitharichall
>>
>>
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http://www.keitharichall.com/
twitter: keitharichall

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