Jim, 

Where in Post-Expiration Domain Name Recovery Policy Development Process does 
it refer to a two-step restore process?  The only reference that we found was 
from a meeting on July 7, 2002, with ICANN Redemption Grace Periods for Deleted 
Names Proposal and not embedded in a consensus policy.  

Thanks,

-- 

JG 



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On 11/3/25, 9:17 PM, "James Galvin" <[email protected] 
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Since you ask a direct question about ICANN policies, I’ll also add that there 
is a more recent consensus policy regarding RGP here:


https://secure-web.cisco.com/1bkD46xeEtzORQVqvd1bLXQUURSmsa49K-MGaG3xhH5tdw-YDgzN28SxbhMvImAtRlgtgeBvVEBk5-eL_JhDl_n2TZ5lRuhyWHJ4ZVo0dUXW6h8NxIkCp9Kh61QlN-PYo2_ZWt1aL0reYS8BlK1o955F7gK72KUmHka6UVNBhs7zvQwZs-X5ui7ypCxiqfAAOJKWFx3k8EBDb9TU3LCNyfjBxeWG7oMZochiKtmChy4gTAr_LxPq0ekr-1xYiJ-Hv_qfuPyne1uKt-UCQ_db0Z55WPP_fzs3TCTPwpstQ9eE/https%3A%2F%2Fgnso.icann.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Ffilefield_24907%2Fpednr-final-report-14jun11-en.pdf
 
<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1bkD46xeEtzORQVqvd1bLXQUURSmsa49K-MGaG3xhH5tdw-YDgzN28SxbhMvImAtRlgtgeBvVEBk5-eL_JhDl_n2TZ5lRuhyWHJ4ZVo0dUXW6h8NxIkCp9Kh61QlN-PYo2_ZWt1aL0reYS8BlK1o955F7gK72KUmHka6UVNBhs7zvQwZs-X5ui7ypCxiqfAAOJKWFx3k8EBDb9TU3LCNyfjBxeWG7oMZochiKtmChy4gTAr_LxPq0ekr-1xYiJ-Hv_qfuPyne1uKt-UCQ_db0Z55WPP_fzs3TCTPwpstQ9eE/https%3A%2F%2Fgnso.icann.org%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2Ffilefield_24907%2Fpednr-final-report-14jun11-en.pdf>


And for completeness, you suggest “get ICANN change their requirement for 
gTLDS”. I want to point out that it’s not ICANN you have to get to change. Some 
might consider this ICANN arcana but since we’re talking about a consensus 
policy here, you need to get registries and registrars to want to change, then 
to agree to change, and then to create a consensus policy with the change. 
ICANN the organization only has the role of enforcing compliance with rules 
registries and registrars decide for themselves.


In RPP you can do what you want. However, if you would like for gTLDs to be 
able to consider adopting it, then it would be good to make sure that it is 
possible for gTLD registries and registrars to apply their existing policies 
with RPP. Otherwise, they will have to change their policies before they can 
even consider adopting RPP.


Jim




On 11 Aug 2025, at 8:59, Maarten Wullink wrote:


> Hi Jim,
>
> Thanks for the link to the ICANN proposal, i forgot you already added this to 
> the report.
>
> Is RGP as-is an ICANN requirement for gTLDs?
> if so then if we want to change the RGP extension, we would also need to get 
> ICANN change their requirement for gTLDS and RGP implementation?
>
> -
> Maarten
>
>
>
>>>
>>> I’ve got some questions about the RGP extension (RFC3915)
>>>
>>>
>>> - Why was the requirement for a restore report added?
>>
>> JG-The two step restore process of the restore request and restore report 
>> originated with the ICANN Redemption Grace Periods for Deleted Names 
>> Proposal 
>> (https://secure-web.cisco.com/12J3TYAtjn1vJOTQJDVeYHudTBt_y9LuS1KPDYuwdR19pD2Vba4ezj-9kkC_RfyjfCjSs6ncirYCYoWvBj_aC3Vv23B_3tiqZmoilactv5U54QZl6d_LI7kgpwvQkuMZA2WEJvYwIbGzXLH7YEJ7V5556fZKndUhac3RAiaozU3Hh_9yDr1W9C-sFC0PWaCf2hIDDnBAmaHj28tLGc9VbniCE7VeKc0JB0A4Dakj5tgbxgi-qMaHQpDJxK_TpJ68gfL3WoZN818ccL283YG8X3vZ3YRn-TiuGpbxDrCbtXK8/https%3A%2F%2Farchive.icann.org%2Fen%2Fmeetings%2Fbucharest%2Fredemption-topic.htm
>>  
>> <https://secure-web.cisco.com/12J3TYAtjn1vJOTQJDVeYHudTBt_y9LuS1KPDYuwdR19pD2Vba4ezj-9kkC_RfyjfCjSs6ncirYCYoWvBj_aC3Vv23B_3tiqZmoilactv5U54QZl6d_LI7kgpwvQkuMZA2WEJvYwIbGzXLH7YEJ7V5556fZKndUhac3RAiaozU3Hh_9yDr1W9C-sFC0PWaCf2hIDDnBAmaHj28tLGc9VbniCE7VeKc0JB0A4Dakj5tgbxgi-qMaHQpDJxK_TpJ68gfL3WoZN818ccL283YG8X3vZ3YRn-TiuGpbxDrCbtXK8/https%3A%2F%2Farchive.icann.org%2Fen%2Fmeetings%2Fbucharest%2Fredemption-topic.htm>),
>>  dating back to June 7, 2002.
>>
>>> - Is the contents of the restore report ver checked by any registry?
>>
>> JG-No, we're not aware of anything being checked by the registries with the 
>> restore report.
>>
>>> - Should we consider creating an updated version of the RGP extension 
>>> without the restore report?
>>>
>>
>> JG-Yes, but it would be good for the EPP bis draft 
>> (draft-carney-regext-rfc3915bis) to incorporate this change first.
>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Maarten
>>
>>
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